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Offline dmdaven2

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Re: Need help with the Office of Children's Issues
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2009, 02:05:52 PM »
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Any documentation from the Airline itself would be no better than that which I've already sumbitted since it would be considered a "private" document.. ie non-public or non Government issued. I will start working with my US attorneys to subpoena this information from the Department of Homeland Security and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services. It would be helpful if during that I had my son's passport number. Will have to see if the OCI (part of the State Department that issues passports) has that information and considers it relevant to my case since they have already said that records of my son's entries into the US are not relevant and I intend to use the passport number to try and request those records... :burn:

 
You should be able to get your son's passport information, no questions asked. You're his father. If they say it's policy that they can't, trust me they are BS'n.
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Re: Need help with the Office of Children's Issues
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2009, 03:41:05 PM »
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You should be able to get your son's passport information, no questions asked. You're his father. If they say it's policy that they can't, trust me they are BS'n.


Yeah, I know they can give me his passport info.  They have absolutely no discretion whatsoever about issuing me the information related to the issuance of his passport, but what i'm most interested in is the information on when and where it was used.  That is, any and all records of my son's entries and exits into the United States.  This is what the OCI is denying me.
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Re: Need help with the Office of Children's Issues
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2009, 03:51:57 PM »
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Yeah, I know they can give me his passport info. They have absolutely no discretion whatsoever about issuing me the information related to the issuance of his passport, but what i'm most interested in is the information on when and where it was used. That is, any and all records of my son's entries and exits into the United States. This is what the OCI is denying me.

Oh i see, that's a bit more in depth, however, your the biological father, and if they ask you why you need it, the only real answer necessary is "because I want it". I mean, since when do biological parents need excuses to obtain information about their own children??? Again i'd like to see these "policies" that the US Dept of State keeps talking about
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Re: Need help with the Office of Children's Issues
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2009, 06:42:43 PM »
How can they deny you that?  Is it because you are not an attorney asking for it?

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Re: Need help with the Office of Children's Issues
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2009, 08:20:01 PM »
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How can they deny you that?  Is it because you are not an attorney asking for it?


They claim to be protecting the privacy of the child and claim that, as a government beauocracy, they know better how to protect a child's privacy than their own parents so, even when the requested information has nothing to do with the abducting parent, the OCI reserves the right to withold it.  In cases where the LBP doesn't know where their child is they also claim that telling the LBP can violate the privacy of the abducting parent (since they are presumably with the child) and require that the LBP get a privacy waiver signed by the abducting parent.
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Re: Need help with the Office of Children's Issues
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2009, 11:20:01 AM »
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They claim to be protecting the privacy of the child and claim that, as a government beauocracy, they know better how to protect a child's privacy than their own parents so, even when the requested information has nothing to do with the abducting parent, the OCI reserves the right to withold it. In cases where the LBP doesn't know where their child is they also claim that telling the LBP can violate the privacy of the abducting parent (since they are presumably with the child) and require that the LBP get a privacy waiver signed by the abducting parent.
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That doesn't make any sense at all!:burn:  What can they possibly be thinking - sorry, know they answer, they are not.