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Re: Decision of Sean case could be released at any time!
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2009, 11:30:06 AM »
I think it's good news...I couldn't possibly see what more they could possibly say about this case than..Okay send Sean home...I mean there's nothing else really to talk about concerning the case...it's been obvious from jump street...a little sprinkle of corruption here and there and it drug out for 5 years...now it's time to bring resolution...This case is getting so drawn out I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up in a AP US History Book for high school students to read about as a monumental case in US and Brazilian affairs.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 09:40:36 PM »
I don't get this...what is it?!  Who is
RADAR ON-LINE
By Paulo Celso Pereira

?!  Can someone explain what this means please?!?
History has demonstrated that the most notable winners usually encountered heartbreaking obstacles before they triumphed. They won because they refused to become discouraged by their defeats.
 
~ B. C. Forbes ~
 
"It doesn't matter which way you cut this. If you abduct a child from a country and remove it from its parents, its other parent and its extended family and its culture, it is one of the most extreme forms of child abuse that you can inflict upon a child."

well said by Ken Thompson.

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Re: Decision of Sean case could be released at any time!
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 12:59:09 AM »
113 comments already
http://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/brasilcomz/posts/2009/05/21/advogado-da-agu-defende-haia-no-caso-goldman-188241.asp
 
 
O ministro José Antonio Dias Toffoli, da AGU, disse que a Presidência da República tem que agir nos casos envolvendo tratados internacionais. Foto: Sérgio Moraes.

Uma luz se abre no túnel escuro do Judiciário brasileiro, e nem tudo está perdido no caso Goldman.

No último final de semana, o Advogado-Geral da União, ministro José Antonio Dias Toffoli,
declarou que o Brasil deve respeitar as leis internacionais no caso da retenção ilegal de Sean Goldman no Brasil.

"O Estatuto da Criança e do Adolescente do Brasil dialoga com o tratado de Haia", disse Toffoli.

Dois dados se destacam na afirmação: 1) O ministro falou para uma platéia de aproximadamente 2,5 mil profissionais e estudantes de Direito, durante a abertura do III Congresso Mundial de Direito Público, em Recife. 2) Ele defendeu o que é certo para todo brasileiro, e não para uma minoria privilegiada.

Se tivesse ocorrido o contrário, disse Toffoli, sendo uma criança nascida no Brasil com pai brasileiro e mãe norte-americana falecida, por exemplo, a Convenção de Haia determinaria que o filho ficasse com a família brasileira.

Outro conceito defendido pelo ministro – e que já foi exposto aqui pelo juiz federal Roberto Wanderley Nogueira – é que "o Presidente da República possui a atribuição de dar ciência à população de leis e tratados consolidados e que a AGU tem esse papel." Ou seja, a presidência tem que agir.

“"Tudo isso é lei vigente no Brasil. E o número de tratados e normas internacionais que entram em vigor no país aumenta potencialmente", adicionou ele.

As opiniões do ministro chegaram aos ouvidos de Sergio Tostes, o advogado da família brasileira de Sean. Segundo a revista “Veja,” Tostes teve uma reunião tão rápido quanto ríspida com Toffoli.

“Tostes queixou-se do que considerou envolvimento excessivo da AGU numa questão que envolve um brasileiro nato. Toffoli disse que trabalhava para o seu cliente, ou seja a União,” publicou a revista.

Nas poucas palavras acima, Toffoli teve mais coragem de defender a verdade do que toda a Inter-American Bar Association, que recitou, em nota, o mesmo discurso pronto daqueles que dizem que “o Judiciário brasileiro é independente, e que não vão aceitar pressão.”

A Justiça brasileira ainda tem salvação. Mas o caso Goldman demonstra que o nosso Judiciário precisa de uma forcinha da opiniao pública para abandonar a inércia.

 
 
 
 
A light comes up in the dark tunnel of the Brazilian Judiciary, and all is not lost for Goldman.

At the end of last week, the Advocate General of the Union Minister José Antonio Dias Toffoli, said that Brazil must respect international law in the case of illegal detention of Sean Goldman in Brazil.

"The Status of Children and Adolescents in Brazil dialogues with the treaty of The Hague," said Toffoli.

Two points stand out in the statement: 1) The minister spoke to an audience of approximately 2.5 thousand professionals and students of law, during the opening of the III World Congress of Public Law, in Recife. 2) He defended what is right for every Brazilian, and not for a privileged minority.

If the opposite had occurred, said Toffoli, one child born in Brazil with Brazilian father and mother died the U.S., for example, the Hague Convention determines that the child was with the Brazilian family.

Another concept advocated by the minister - and that has been exposed here by the federal judge Roberto Wanderley Nogueira - is that "the President has the allocation to the science of population laws and treaties established and that the AGU has that role." That is, the president has to act.

"This law is in force in Brazil. And the number of treaties and international standards that come into force in the country potentially increases," he added.

The views of the minister reached the ears of Sergio Tostes, counsel for the Brazilian family of Sean.

According to the magazine Veja, "Tostes had a meeting as soon  with Toffoli.

"Tostes complained about the view that excessive involvement of the AGU in a matter involving a Brazilian born. Toffoli said that working for your client, or the Union, "the magazine published.

In few words above, Toffoli had more courage to defend the truth of the whole Inter-American Bar Association, which recited, in a note, prepared the same speech of those who say that "the Brazilian Judiciary is independent and will not accept pressure .

The Brazilian Justice has salvation. But the Goldman case demonstrates that our Judiciary needs a forcinha public opinion to abandon inertia.

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Re: Decision of Sean case could be released at any time!
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 01:36:34 AM »
Are the comments positive?

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Re: Decision of Sean case could be released at any time!
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 02:47:16 AM »
Quote from: Wendy;22381
I don't get this...what is it?! Who is
RADAR ON-LINE
By Paulo Celso Pereira
?! Can someone explain what this means please?!?

RADAR On Line is a session inside VEJA Magazine. The written version of VEJA is the most read magazine in Brazil. It's our TIME.
 
VEJA published Sean history sometime ago, showing both sides of the story (unlike Epoca / Ruth de Aquino).
 
RADAR usually talks about political issues and always tries to give information in first hand, from backstage. This means, they don't replicate what other people publish, they have their own people getting relevant information around.

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Re: Decision of Sean case could be released at any time!
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2009, 07:09:08 AM »
Quote from: Sashia;22393
113 comments already
http://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/brasilcomz/posts/2009/05/21/advogado-da-agu-defende-haia-no-caso-goldman-188241.asp
 
 
O ministro José Antonio Dias Toffoli, da AGU, disse que a Presidência da República tem que agir nos casos envolvendo tratados internacionais. Foto: Sérgio Moraes.
 
Uma luz se abre no túnel escuro do Judiciário brasileiro, e nem tudo está perdido no caso Goldman.
 
No último final de semana, o Advogado-Geral da União, ministro José Antonio Dias Toffoli, declarou que o Brasil deve respeitar as leis internacionais no caso da retenção ilegal de Sean Goldman no Brasil.
 
"O Estatuto da Criança e do Adolescente do Brasil dialoga com o tratado de Haia", disse Toffoli.
 
Dois dados se destacam na afirmação: 1) O ministro falou para uma platéia de aproximadamente 2,5 mil profissionais e estudantes de Direito, durante a abertura do III Congresso Mundial de Direito Público, em Recife. 2) Ele defendeu o que é certo para todo brasileiro, e não para uma minoria privilegiada.
 
Se tivesse ocorrido o contrário, disse Toffoli, sendo uma criança nascida no Brasil com pai brasileiro e mãe norte-americana falecida, por exemplo, a Convenção de Haia determinaria que o filho ficasse com a família brasileira.
 
Outro conceito defendido pelo ministro – e que já foi exposto aqui pelo juiz federal Roberto Wanderley Nogueira – é que "o Presidente da República possui a atribuição de dar ciência à população de leis e tratados consolidados e que a AGU tem esse papel." Ou seja, a presidência tem que agir.
 
“"Tudo isso é lei vigente no Brasil. E o número de tratados e normas internacionais que entram em vigor no país aumenta potencialmente", adicionou ele.
 
As opiniões do ministro chegaram aos ouvidos de Sergio Tostes, o advogado da família brasileira de Sean. Segundo a revista “Veja,” Tostes teve uma reunião tão rápido quanto ríspida com Toffoli.
 
“Tostes queixou-se do que considerou envolvimento excessivo da AGU numa questão que envolve um brasileiro nato. Toffoli disse que trabalhava para o seu cliente, ou seja a União,” publicou a revista.
 
Nas poucas palavras acima, Toffoli teve mais coragem de defender a verdade do que toda a Inter-American Bar Association, que recitou, em nota, o mesmo discurso pronto daqueles que dizem que “o Judiciário brasileiro é independente, e que não vão aceitar pressão.”
 
A Justiça brasileira ainda tem salvação. Mas o caso Goldman demonstra que o nosso Judiciário precisa de uma forcinha da opiniao pública para abandonar a inércia.
 
 
 
 
A light comes up in the dark tunnel of the Brazilian Judiciary, and all is not lost for Goldman.
 
At the end of last week, the Advocate General of the Union Minister José Antonio Dias Toffoli, said that Brazil must respect international law in the case of illegal detention of Sean Goldman in Brazil.
 
"The Status of Children and Adolescents in Brazil dialogues with the treaty of The Hague," said Toffoli.
 
Two points stand out in the statement: 1) The minister spoke to an audience of approximately 2.5 thousand professionals and students of law, during the opening of the III World Congress of Public Law, in Recife. 2) He defended what is right for every Brazilian, and not for a privileged minority.
 
If the opposite had occurred, said Toffoli, one child born in Brazil with Brazilian father and mother died the U.S., for example, the Hague Convention determines that the child was with the Brazilian family.
 
Another concept advocated by the minister - and that has been exposed here by the federal judge Roberto Wanderley Nogueira - is that "the President has the allocation to the science of population laws and treaties established and that the AGU has that role." That is, the president has to act.
 
"This law is in force in Brazil. And the number of treaties and international standards that come into force in the country potentially increases," he added.
 
The views of the minister reached the ears of Sergio Tostes, counsel for the Brazilian family of Sean.
 
According to the magazine Veja, "Tostes had a meeting as soon with Toffoli.
 
"Tostes complained about the view that excessive involvement of the AGU in a matter involving a Brazilian born. Toffoli said that working for your client, or the Union, "the magazine published.
 
In few words above, Toffoli had more courage to defend the truth of the whole Inter-American Bar Association, which recited, in a note, prepared the same speech of those who say that "the Brazilian Judiciary is independent and will not accept pressure .
 
The Brazilian Justice has salvation. But the Goldman case demonstrates that our Judiciary needs a forcinha public opinion to abandon inertia.

 
Sounds like an extremely positive article about and statement from the AGU.  I am thrilled to see the Inter-American Bar Association is even on their radar (pun intended :) )
 
Tostes is nothing but burnt toast at this point.  The man has no shame, and the fact that he repeatedly spews garbage and arrogance against International law and human decency is repulsive.  Thinking of him makes me sick, so I wish he would just go away.... and maybe he will. Since the dark side has just about LOST THEIR CASE, maybe Tostes is going to be replaced at the eleventh hour.  
 
Is Tostes himself a member of the IABA?

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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2009, 12:19:22 PM »
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RADAR On Line is a session inside VEJA Magazine. The written version of VEJA is the most read magazine in Brazil. It's our TIME.
 
VEJA published Sean history sometime ago, showing both sides of the story (unlike Epoca / Ruth de Aquino).
 
RADAR usually talks about political issues and always tries to give information in first hand, from backstage. This means, they don't replicate what other people publish, they have their own people getting relevant information around.

THANK YOU for explaining that! I'm very excited about this then!  It's so refreshing to see common sense starting to come to the forefront!!
History has demonstrated that the most notable winners usually encountered heartbreaking obstacles before they triumphed. They won because they refused to become discouraged by their defeats.
 
~ B. C. Forbes ~
 
"It doesn't matter which way you cut this. If you abduct a child from a country and remove it from its parents, its other parent and its extended family and its culture, it is one of the most extreme forms of child abuse that you can inflict upon a child."

well said by Ken Thompson.

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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2009, 10:35:15 PM »
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Silvana's babbling helps our cause. She shot herself on the foot.

I could not agree more!!!!!!!!! she did it to herself!!!!!!! horrible letter she wrote, so selfish!
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