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Offline tweinstein

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Re: Gatti found dead in Brazil
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2009, 08:39:20 AM »
The Brazilian constitution prohibits extradition of the wife if the Canadian courts determine that she should be charged. I guess the leverage would be that they could freeze the bank accounts and she could stay in Brazil without the money.

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Re: Gatti found dead in Brazil
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2009, 07:38:38 AM »
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The Brazilian constitution prohibits extradition of the wife if the Canadian courts determine that she should be charged. I guess the leverage would be that they could freeze the bank accounts and she could stay in Brazil without the money.


If Canada can freeze the accounts without charging her, saying that they want her for "questioning", maybe she'll return to Canada to try and free up the money.

Saying this guy committed suicide is akin to saying that "Sean wants to stay in Brazil."


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His death was ruled a suicide today.
 
Brazilian justice, you get what you pay for.

Have to agree. If the brazilian federal police could somehow get involved this case might take a different turn. If it's left up to the police in Pernambuco, well, it looks like someone has already been paid.

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Re: Gatti found dead in Brazil
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2009, 03:22:28 AM »
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If Canada can freeze the accounts without charging her, saying that they want her for "questioning", maybe she'll return to Canada to try and free up the money.



I am of the opinion that it is much more efficient to concentrate efforts on the criminals instead of ideas like economic sanctions. In hierarchical societies with huge inequality and supressed populations, sanctions dont lead to internal pressure for change since people are used to the economic harship and wouldnt dare upset the elites.

Its much better to take actions such as visa revoking/banning or freezing assets like you mentioned above. It hurts directly the law breakers and their families and i guarantee results in change at a faster rate.

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Re: Gatti found dead in Brazil
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2009, 06:08:28 AM »
Baden oversees Arturo Gatti’s second autopsy

  By AMY LUFT, Associated Press Writer  Aug  1, 5:17 pm EDT
               
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MONTREAL (AP)—A second autopsy performed at the request of former boxer Arturo Gatti’s family has not ruled out homicide in his death.
 Michael Baden, the former chief pathologist for the New York State Police and host of the HBO cable TV show “Autopsy,” said Saturday that an autopsy performed by Quebec coroners found that an investigation by Brazilian authorities was incomplete.
 The second autopsy came two days after Brazilian police classified Gatti’s death a suicide.
 “There were definite injuries that had not been seen by the Brazilian authorities, but one needs a lot of additional information, including a toxicology which isn’t available yet, to come to a conclusion as to whether it’s homicide or suicide,” Baden said.
                     
                     

Until Thursday, police in the northeastern Brazilian city of Recife considered Gatti’s death a homicide and held his wife Amanda Rodrigues as the prime suspect. Now, police say Gatti hanged himself with a handbag strap from a staircase column more than seven feet off the ground.
 Gatti’s family has rejected the conclusion that he committed suicide at an upscale resort in Brazil on July 11.
 Following the autopsy, Baden said it was apparent that the Brazilian investigation was incomplete. Toxicology tests will take place in Montreal in the coming weeks.
 “The family (and pathologist’s office) are waiting for results from the Brazilian police as to the scene of death and circumstances in Brazil before a final conclusion can be made,” Baden said. “But the pathologists here (in Quebec) did a super job at finding things, including injuries, that were missed in Brazil.”
 Gatti, a Canadian who captured two world titles in his 16-year pro career, retired in 2007 with a record of 40-9.
 Many of his friends and family have expressed disbelief at the suicide ruling, and Canadian Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon said in a statement Friday that government officials will seek more information from Brazilian authorities.
 Ellen Haley, a spokeswoman for Gatti’s longtime promoter Main Events, said in a statement that “we do not believe that he took his own life.” She said members of the Gatti family, along with his former manager Pat Lynch, will carry out their own investigation.
 “We believe that once the results of that investigation are revealed, the truth will come to light and justice will be done,” the statement said.
 Earlier this week, friends close to the Gatti family brought a computer to the Montreal police, claiming it had evidence of interest to his death. Montreal police have not searched the contents of the computer, and are making arrangements to have it sent to Brazilian authorities, Montreal police Constable Ian Lacoursiere said.
 Gatti’s 23-year-old wife was released earlier this week after being held since July 12 in Recife. She and Gatti arrived with their 10-month-old son a few days before in the resort town of Porto de Galinhas, where they rented a two-level apartment.
 “I am absolutely sure that the second autopsy will reconfirm that he committed suicide,” Rodrigues’s attorney, Celio Avelino, said by telephone.
 Repeated calls to Rodrigues went unanswered.
 Milena Saraiva, a Recife police spokeswoman, provided more information Friday about Gatti’s death.
 Police concluded that he hanged himself in the apartment early on July 11 from a wooden staircase column that was about 7 feet off the ground. He stood on a stool and kicked it out from under him, police said. The autopsy report said Gatti was suspended for about three hours before his body fell to the floor.

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Re: Gatti found dead in Brazil
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2009, 06:38:49 AM »
New information on Gatti's will
 
  According to a family friend contacted by CTV Montreal, Gatti changed his final testament on June 17, just days before going on vacation.
  It is now believed that 100 per cent of his multi-million dollar fortune will go to Rodrigues, and that she will have full custody of their 10-month-old son, Arturo Jr. Should something happen to Rodrigues, everything -- including custody of Arturo Jr -- would be handed over to her sister, Flavia.
  The revised will apparently leaves nothing to Gatti's daughter in New Jersey, or to his parents and siblings in Montreal.
  The couple's insurance policy guarantees that $1 million be made accessible to Rodrigues immediately.
 Gatti's manager, Pat Lynch, said he is both suspicious and outraged.
  "Everything changed into her name, and all of a sudden, Arturo Gatti's dead three weeks later?"
  Lynch added that he is convinced his name is on the will.
  "I was told that I am co-executor of that will, so I had an attorney from Montreal represent me and I demanded a copy of that will, which I hope to have in my hands on Monday."

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Re: Gatti found dead in Brazil
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2009, 12:29:25 PM »
I'm assuming that Gatti's wife is Brazilian? If so, unfortunatley, these kind of people do exist in Brazil; those that take advantage of every situation they can for personal/financial gain (Bruna, JPLS and Nona Bruxa included). This, however, is not a blanket statement for all of the Brazilian people.
 
And once again, we see the incompetance of the Brazilian authorities in the performing of their duties and the very real possibility of corruption with a "pay-off" to get this women out of prison.  Shame on those authorities and people involved.

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Re: Gatti found dead in Brazil
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2009, 11:56:47 PM »
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I'm assuming that Gatti's wife is Brazilian? If so, unfortunatley, these kind of people do exist in Brazil; those that take advantage of every situation they can for personal/financial gain (Bruna, JPLS and Nona Bruxa included). This, however, is not a blanket statement for all of the Brazilian people.
 
And once again, we see the incompetance of the Brazilian authorities in the performing of their duties and the very real possibility of corruption with a "pay-off" to get this women out of prison.  Shame on those authorities and people involved.
These people are, unfortunately, the rule. This is what we are dealing with. Not a Juridical system, not an unresponsive government, not a bunch a bad people; just one criminal nation. It is up to us to get our governments to deal with them as you deal with a criminal. Not a peer nation, not a sovereign, not partner, not a buddy. As a rogue collective criminal.