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Re: More media coverage...
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2009, 07:52:04 PM »
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that article is just..wow. Silvana is truly a sick woman

yes. it may very well be narcissistic personality disorder or bipolar disorder. either way, she brings poignant new meaning to the word egocentric.

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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2009, 07:57:50 PM »
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I was hoping she would do ANOTHER ENTIRE PROGRAM focused on all the other LBPs and the global issue of child abduction, and that it would be a springboard to an entire NBC Dateline series...beginning a new theme (like they have the predator theme, the crime theme, etc.) that would recur repeatedly with different cases and LBPs.
At the least, to have a segment about the overall crisis and a quick appearance by Bernie Aronson. I am sure Mark and others will bring up the subject of the other 64 children at some point during their appearances.

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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2009, 08:15:54 PM »
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I agree!!

GO, Meredith!!!

 :cheer: :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

Ditto.  That's what brought it my attention was Meredith Viera reporting on David's story.  I kept up with what was going on through the "Today" show for a while, then started coming here for updates.  She rocks! :cheer:

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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2009, 08:38:27 PM »
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that article is just..wow.   Silvana is truly a sick woman

Thankfully her fifteen minutes are almost up. I would say she's at around 13:30 right now. I would say later, but unfortunately CBS will probably extend her last minute with one last blast of exposure when she comes here to be denied by David and the NJ Courts.  Then her sun will set for good as far as US exposure is concerned.
Pass HR 3240
Please visit links to HR 3240.  We need this bill passed now for the 2,800 other abducted American Children!

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Re: More media coverage...
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2009, 08:38:48 PM »
An interesting article by Seth Kugal of Global Post

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/brazil/091224/sean-goldman-brazil

Only 3 comments -- 2 favorable, 1 DS, that ratio should change soon enough.

Frenzy greets Sean Goldman's arrivalSeth Kugel - GlobalPost December 24, 2009  08:52  ET

http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/photogallery/gallery_5314261/t_Brazil_kugel_Goldman5_EDIT.jpg">Sean Goldman on jet headed for the US

His departure came after a frenzied scene at the American Consulate in Rio de Janeiro.


By Seth Kugel - GlobalPostPublished: December 24, 2009  08:59  ET

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil — Almost five years after Bruna Bianchi took her American-born son Sean Goldman on vacation from New Jersey to her native Brazil and never returned, Sean is back with his father.
 At about 10 a.m. today, they left the American consulate on President Wilson Avenue in downtown Rio de Janeiro, and sped away in police-escorted SUVs to the airport, where they boarded a private jet to the United States.
 According to the lawyer representing Goldman's Brazilian family, Sergio Tostes, the scene earlier this morning was a spectacle put on purposely by the Brazilian family. They were, Tostes said, protesting David Goldman's unwillingness to agree to their request to have the grandmother and attorney fly with Sean to the United States, and his unwillingness to agree to visitation.
 The boy, now 9, wearing a bright yellow jersey adorned with a Brazilian flag, arrived huddled between Tostes and his stepfather, Joao Paulo Lins e Silva. Slightly ahead were his grandmother and maternal uncle. There was no sign of Chiara, his 15-month-old half-sister.
 The background to the familial scene is now familiar: In 2004, Bianchi — David Goldman’s ex-wife — took Sean on vacation to her native Brazil, remarried into a wealthy, powerful family of lawyers and eventually died shortly after giving birth to Sean’s half-sister last year.
 On Thursday, that family was mobbed by an elbowing crowd of cameramen and photographers as it accompanied Sean to the consulate. "Open up space, please!" shouted Tostes.
 "You were the ones that caused this!" shouted one photographer.
 Completely true. American embassy spokeswoman Orna Blum had been urging since last night that Sean be transferred in privacy.
 Alerted that the family was planning to arrive on foot, she gave a pre-emptive press conference outside the consulate to mostly Brazilian journalists.
 "I want to confirm that the family has complete access to the building," she said. "Here in the consulate we are facilitating access, discretion and calm for the family." It was vital, she said, for Sean to have privacy during these moments.
 But Tostes said, in an exclusive interview conducted by GlobalPost for CBS News Wednesday night, that this was retribution for Goldman's intransigence on the visitation issues.
 It would have been convenient for Silvana (the grandmother) to travel to the United States, he said Wednesday night in his home. It would make the transition as smooth as possible, not just for the boy but for the benefit of David Goldman.
 Before the impasse, which occurred in a meeting between lawyers from both sides, Tostes said the families had agreed to have Sean's maternal grandmother meet Goldman, to tell him about Sean's likes and dislikes, habits, and some medical issues. He is, for example, allergic to shellfish. But that did not happen, though it is unclear whether they discussed these issues inside the consulate.
 The media circus was a plan, Tostes said, to combat what he said would be a hero's welcome for Sean when he arrived in the United States. He wished to have a farewell in front of everyone seen on the front page in papers in the U.S. and all over the world.
 He may have succeeded.

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ALSO THIS EARLIER Seth Kugal article with some comments from brasileiros and others:

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/brazil/091218/sean-goldman-custody-battle

Brazil: More sympathy for David Goldman?


The tide of public opinion in the Sean Goldman custody battle may be shifting.


By Seth Kugel - GlobalPostPublished: December 18, 2009  19:02  ET

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil — The tide of public opinion may be shifting in Brazil, which remains as riveted as ever by the drawn-out custody battle over 9-year-old Sean Goldman, a Brazilian-American boy born in New Jersey.
 As reporters and others waited outside the Marriott Hotel across from Copacabana beach for Sean's father, David Goldman, to come out and discuss new developments in the case, a man named Nilton Silva came out of nowhere and introduced himself to U.S. Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), who has been helping Goldman with his legal battle.
 “Sir,” said Silva, a silver-haired 55-year-old man, “I’m Brazilian and I’m totally in favor that he take his son back to America.”
 Silva stuck around as Goldman, of Tinton Falls, N.J., came out and joined the press scrum, pushing in like a veteran to reiterate for Goldman what he had told Smith. Silva is one of the more passionate of an increasing number of Brazilians who seem to be taking the father’s side in the five-year battle over who Sean will live with.
 The details are by now familiar: In 2004, Goldman’s ex-wife Bruna Bianchi took Sean on vacation to her native Brazil, did not return, remarried into a wealthy, powerful family of lawyers and eventually died shortly after giving birth to Sean’s half-sister last year.
 That’s when the story started grabbing headlines both here and in the United States. Americans seemed united behind Goldman, but Brazilians were split over whether Sean should stay with his stepfather, Joao Paulo Lins e Silva, his half-sister Chiara and maternal grandparents in Rio de Janeiro, or be returned to his father in New Jersey. Some felt that that the paternal blood ties should be supreme; others that the child was better off with the family he knew in Brazil. Few took the American view that Brazil was harboring kidnappers.
 But when the case made news again this week — first, a 3-0 decision by a federal appeals court to send Sean to New Jersey, then a controversial stay of the order by a Supreme Court justice — things seemed to have shifted.  
 The shift in public opinion in Brazil is perhaps most noticeable in the online comments people are leaving in Portuguese on sites like that of Rio’s principal newspaper, O Globo.  Of thousands of comments, a large majority seem in favor of Goldman, but the odd thing is that they are not so anti-Lins e Silva as they are anti-Brazil.
 “What the Federal Supreme Court is doing to that child and his father is an embarrassment … Brazil is sponsoring international kidnapping and should be ashamed.!!” – silviakersh
 “Mr. Goldman, we ask forgiveness for our justice system, our government, our country. Here is Brazil, it doesn’t matter who is right, what matters is whom you know.” — Bebeto23
 “This decision means just one thing = dictatorship and corruption … that’s it, Brazil is showing its face for the world to see.” — Vida Bela.

When the case has hit the news before, comments were more split, with arguments on the Brazilian side often taking an anti-American tone, especially against politicans like Smith and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who were involved in the case. But as Brazilian courts continuously came down on the side of the father, only to have their decisions overturned or delayed by legal maneuvering, people here seem to be recognizing an all-too-familiar pattern: the wealthy and well-connected getting their way.  
 Some real Brazilians with identities beyond online handles felt the same way.
 “Unfortunately, justice in Brazil is biased,” said Jose Vicente, a 69-year-old lawyer who was devouring corn porridge in the Cinelandia area of Rio de Janeiro. “The system is represented by someone with a blindfold on, who sometimes doesn’t even try to see.”
 The porridge salesman, Joison Silva Paulo, agreed. “Justice favors the rich,” he said.
 Not everyone, of course, has taken Goldman’s side. At a nearby outdoor table at the Amarelinho Bar, four service workers and a Franciscan priest relaxed with beers after work. They had a more diverse set of opinions on the issue.
 “He’s got a father,” said Juliana Feitosa, 32.
 “So he should go with the father,” said Rayane Miranda, 26.
 “The child should decide,” said Rodrigo Vale Silva, 21.
 The priest, Father James Girardi, stayed on the fence, feeling there must be a way to work out joint custody. Only 54-year-old Ruth Ferreira de Matos wasn’t sure. But her decision-making process spoke volumes about Brazilian society.  
 “I think he should stay with the father,” she said. “The father will be able to give him everything. The family here is poor, right? No? They’re rich? Well, then I need to give it some more thought.”
 As he spoke to the mostly Brazilian reporters outside his hotel, Goldman himself acknowledged the growing number of Brazilians on his side. “I thank all of the Brazilian citizens who see the right of a parent and a child,” he said. “It’s not a difficult thing to imagine. Sean is my family, Sean is my son. I’m his dad. Not ‘he’s Brazilian,’ not ‘he’s American,’ not ‘he’s from anywhere.’ He’s my son.”
 Sergio Tostes, the Brazilian family’s lawyer, did not return calls to his cell phone and office.
 Plenty of Brazilians still want Sean to stay put. But Goldman’s uphill battle against an intimidating legal system and an opponent that knows it inside and out has struck a chord. Or, as an O Globo website commenter called AndreThomazFilho put it:
 “It’s impressive how the Lins e Silva family achieved an almost unheard of feat in this country: it united the great majority of the Brazilian population in favor of an American! Who would have thought?”
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

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Re: More media coverage...
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2009, 03:40:01 AM »
@Shar - Thanks for the heads up! I can't wait-and I too hope they feature other children who have been kidnapped to Brazil and around the world.
 
Quote from: gr8one;60914
that article is just..wow. Silvana is truly a sick woman

ITA. I wish I had not read that interview with her and Luca. There is something desperately wrong with those people.
 
Imo as a requirement for POSSIBLE visitation in future the adults in that WHOLE clan should have Court-ordered psychiatric evaluations followed up by some serious group, and individual counseling sessions.
And a good collective a$$ whoopin' wouldn't do them any harm :beatin:-might shake the cobwebs loose in their brains and they can finally do some serious thinking.
 
I'm just saying.:nixweiss:
It's all jmo :lecture:
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2009, 04:08:48 AM »
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@Shar - Thanks for the heads up! I can't wait-and I too hope they feature other children who have been kidnapped to Brazil and around the world.
 
 
 
ITA. I wish I had not read that interview with her and Luca. There is something desperately wrong with those people.
 
Imo as a requirement for POSSIBLE visitation in future the adults in that WHOLE clan should have Court-ordered psychiatric evaluations followed up by some serious group, and individual counseling sessions.
And a good collective a$$ whoopin' wouldn't do them any harm :beatin:-might shake the cobwebs loose in their brains and they can finally do some serious thinking.
 
I'm just saying.:nixweiss:

 
Margaret - your style is crass and blunt..........I like it. ;)

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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2009, 06:03:33 AM »
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Margaret - your style is crass and blunt..........I like it. ;)

Sorry-I'm from Philly, and I'm an American of Cuban/French/German descent. Basically I think with my heart, I talk loud, I'm passionate, I can't shut up and you don't want to get a fair skinned latina, franca, alemana pi$$ed off!:cloud:
 
Also I was separated from my dad from the age of 3 to 17 (due to entirely different circumstances from Sean and David) but there it is and cases such as this just burn me up-people like Sean's late mother and maternal relatives, as well as totalitarian governments can tear families apart-I see footage of families in countries like North and South Korea who have not seen each other in over 50 years due to politics and war-but where there is life there remains hope of a renewal. I had to get to know my dad when I was nearly a young woman-I love him, and we have a great relationship but it's different from that of my baby sister's who is 18 years my junior. She calls him 'Daddy'. I call him 'Papa'. Daddy would just feel too weird. Revolutions can do that to families.
 
Sean has the gift of childhood on his side. :) He'll be just fine with the support of his loving Daddy, Pop Pop and Grandma, and all his Goldman relations.
It's all jmo :lecture:
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2009, 01:41:01 PM »
Congressman Smith is on Fox now.  I have to say Fox has had excellent coverage about David and Sean all along.  He is now talking about his bill.

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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2009, 01:44:15 PM »
MSNBC article:
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34601024/ns/today-today_people/
 

Sean speaks about having to get snow clothing. ;)

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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2009, 02:30:14 PM »
Conjur published another awesome article written by the federal judge Roberto Wanderley Nogueira.
 
http://www.conjur.com.br/2009-dez-27/decisao-levou-sean-aos-eua-obedece-principio-juiz-natural

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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2009, 03:38:41 PM »
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Newest article from brazzil.com
 
http://www.brazzil.com/component/content/article/211-december-2009/10317-role-reversal-david-goldman-versus-goliath-brazil.html

Thanks for the heads up about that article.  Very interesting

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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2009, 04:22:54 PM »
"The media circus was a plan, Tostes said, to combat what he said would be a hero's welcome for Sean when he arrived in the United States. He wished to have a farewell in front of everyone seen on the front page in papers in the U.S. and all over the world.
He may have succeeded. "
 
 
How such a lier Tostes is, he was telling in the Brazilian media they did not receive any offer for privacy during the handover, why he did not say the real true, the plan that they had? how abusive they treated this child!:mad2:
 
David you saved your son, he is in a peace away from those crazy selfish people! Thank GOD!!! You and your son will be sooooooooo happy, God is blessing you and him, I am so happy for both of you.:):):clapping::clapping:
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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2009, 06:55:43 PM »
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Congressman Smith is on Fox now.  I have to say Fox has had excellent coverage about David and Sean all along.  He is now talking about his bill.

Darn, missed it. Found the link

http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/28109851/case-closed.htm#q=chris+smith+bill