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Offline bsholveri

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Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« on: January 14, 2010, 09:52:22 AM »
Eu posto aqui um link com uma matéria que fala do caso e na matéria diz que ela conseguiu a guarda definitiva da criança. Seria bom que o Sr. Ayubo esclarecesse como está o processo neste momento.

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 10:46:04 AM »
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Eu posto aqui um link com uma matéria que fala do caso e na matéria diz que ela conseguiu a guarda definitiva da criança. Seria bom que o Sr. Ayubo esclarecesse como está o processo neste momento.

My portuguese sucks...but are you requesting an update from Ariel on his case??
Devon Davenport - Father of Nadia Lynn ;)

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 10:56:42 AM »
bsholveri, Would you please post the link for the story you're referring to?

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2010, 11:12:07 AM »
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Eu posto aqui um link com uma matéria que fala do caso e na matéria diz que ela conseguiu a guarda definitiva da criança. Seria bom que o Sr. Ayubo esclarecesse como está o processo neste momento.
A cidade de Guarapuava não fica no Estado de São Paulo, mas sim no Estado do Paraná.

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2010, 03:30:32 PM »
Realmente a cidade de Guarapuava fica no Estado do Paraná.
 
Aqui está o link da matéria sobre o caso Ayubo
http://www.redesuldenoticias.com.br/noticias/noticia.asp?id=18414
 
Se eu descobrir mais alguma coisa eu posto aqui.

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Re:Address and Telephone School of Lorenzo in Guarapuava-PR
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2010, 05:05:50 PM »
Colégio Adventista Educação Infantil Ensino Fundamental e Médio
(Adventist College Early Childhood Education Elementary and Middle)

Adress: Rua Cônego Braga, 1250
85010-050 Guarapuava - PR - Brasil
Phones: 55-42-42 3623-3642‎ / 55-42-3035-3642
Adventist College Site: http://www.educacaoadventista.org.br/escolas/index.php

Site do Superior Tribunal de Justiça que julgou o caso a favor da mãe de Lorenzo: (Site of the Superior Court of Justice dismissed the case for the mother of Lorenzo:)
http://www.trf4.jus.br/trf4/
Se o pai tiver o número do processo ele consegue ver tudo o que aconteceu nos tribunais. (If the parent has the case number he can see that site all that happened in the courts.)

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 07:08:56 PM »
Se a mãe conseguiu ganhar a causa no TRF Tribunal Regional Federal, ainda cabe recurso no STF Supremo Tribunal de Justiça, acredito. Enquanto o STF não julgar ainda cabe recurso. Foi no STJ que David Goldman ganhou o caso. Procure um bom advogado no Brasil pra saber isso com certeza. o BSH deve ter contato com advogados aqui no Brasil. (If the mother was able to win the case in Federal Court TRF also appeal the Supreme Court Supreme Court, I believe. While the Supreme Court not to judge appealable. It was the STJ David Goldman won the case. Find a good lawyer in Brazil to know that for sure. the BSH must have contact with lawyers in Brazil. ) Sorry, I did the translation by google Translator.

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 08:55:43 PM »
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Realmente a cidade de Guarapuava fica no Estado do Paraná.
 
Aqui está o link da matéria sobre o caso Ayubo
http://www.redesuldenoticias.com.br/noticias/noticia.asp?id=18414
 
Se eu descobrir mais alguma coisa eu posto aqui.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redesuldenoticias.com.br%2Fnoticias%2Fnoticia.asp%3Fid%3D18414&sl=pt&tl=en
 
 
International Conflict:  After 4 years, TRF says American boy can stay with mother

Guarapuava – After nearly four years of fighting international judicial Professor Rita Guimaraes is calmer. Son Lorenzo Guimaraes Ayubo, 7 years, have all chances to stay in Brazil with his mother.
 
It is Lorenzo’s father, Ariel Ayubo, who now lives in Florida, who reported the ex-wife for international kidnapping because her and their son had been on vacation in Brazil. The complaint led to permanent residency in the country. Since then, the obstacle is the case in federal court and has the latest developments.
 
The good news comes from a decision in favor of the Brazilian family was given by the Federal Court (TRF) – 4th Region (Porto Alegre) for about two weeks and stands contrary to the judge’s decision Fabricio Bittencourt, Federal Court of Guarapuava that positioned itself in favor of the boy’s return to Los Angeles in the United States under the custody of the father, Ariel Ayubo.
 
“I got a suspended effect and awaiting trial that was unanimously in our favor stating that the child must remain in Brazil,” says the lawyer Flavio Pansieri, Curitiba.
 
In its decision, the Supreme Court held that to be maintained social stability and quality of life that is living in Lorenzo Guarapuava (Brazil) and argues that the religious and family relations could suffer a possible return of the child to the United States.
 
If the case goes to a happy ending, most of the time these were almost four years of anguish for the family that lives in Brazil, Guarapuava.
 
“All of this has been very distressing, because we can not leave town without an order from the Federal Court,” complains Rita. According to the mother of Lorenzo, the day of the trial was “terrible, but we have faith and pray a lot. We were very happy when the lawyer called us to give us the good news,” she says.
 
Rita says that these four years after returning to Guarapuava returned to school and is completing the course of Literature and gives private lessons in English. Lorenzo studying in Adventist College and, according to the mother, is integrated into Brazilian life and family. “As a good patriot parade on September 7,” she says.
 
Now the next step is to file a custody action to be filed in federal court in Guarapuava.
 
 
CASE
 
The Guarpuavan teacher, Rita Guimaraes, and son Lorenzo, who is now 7 years old, are protagonists of an event of international conflict that came close to her being arrested and separated from her son.
 
The story began in Los Angeles, the United States, where Rita went to live to learn English and stayed for 10 years. It was there that she met the American Ariel Ayubo who she married and had Lorenzo. The family was living in Florida.
 
In September 2004, Rita and Lorenzo came to Guarapuava because of family problems. Her father was sick. Rita says that she had legal authorization signed by her ex-spouse to stay in Brazil for two weeks, but after her father died, she and Lorenzo stayed longer. The mother also had temporary custody of the child.
 
During the trip, Rita kept regular contact with Ariel and he knew what was happening. “A long time I have no more contact with him, know in your step. Lorenzo always ask for it, but no more or the phone number from him,” she says.
 
The issue blew up on international justice in 2004 when he denounced Rita in the Ministry of Justice on international child abduction. The case, at the time, was raised by the Tribune.
 
It began around a fight between proposals back and forth to Brasilia and the United States. “If I stepped into the US airport, I would be arrested and mandatory under US Law,” she recalls.
 
Lorenzo has dual citizenship. “Besides being an American, my son is Brazilian and VIOVAS very happy here,” said the mother.
"Every parent who has a child and they tuck him in at night, or her in at night, and they wish the best and only the best and they will always protect the child and do whatever they can, but most of the time they don't have to prove it. I'm in the proving grounds, to myself and to my child.  I have to get him home and I will do whatever I have to. I'll never stop to save him."  --David Goldman

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 08:56:53 PM »
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My portuguese sucks...but are you requesting an update from Ariel on his case??

The article says the TRF says after 4 years, Ariel's son will remain in Brazil with his mother.
"Every parent who has a child and they tuck him in at night, or her in at night, and they wish the best and only the best and they will always protect the child and do whatever they can, but most of the time they don't have to prove it. I'm in the proving grounds, to myself and to my child.  I have to get him home and I will do whatever I have to. I'll never stop to save him."  --David Goldman

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Re: O caso só acaba quando chega no STJ Superior Tribunal
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2010, 01:41:29 AM »
Aqui no Brasil, enquanto um caso não é julgado no Supremo Tribunal é porque ainda não está acabado. Só um advogado brasileiro vai saber disso com certeza.

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2010, 01:43:21 AM »
Here in Brazil, while a case is tried in the Supreme Court because it is not finished yet. Only a Brazilian lawyer will know for sure.

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2010, 12:40:43 PM »
Caso Ayubo
Guarapuava – PR é uma cidade que fica no Estado do Paraná
A capital do Estado do Paraná é Curitiba, que fica a 159 milhas de Guarapuava.

O advogado de Rita de Cassia Guimarães é Flavio Pansieri, professor de Direito Constitucional da PUC-PR, uma das principais faculdades de direito do Estado do Paraná e também é Presidente da Academia Brasileira de Direito Constitucional

Flavio Pansieri está no twitter http://twitter/Pansieri ou @pansieri

Academia Brasileira de Direito Constitucional
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Rua XV de Novembro, 964 – 2º andar CEP: 80.060-000 – Curitiba – PR
Telefone: 41-3024.1167 / Fax: 41-3027.1167
abdconst@abdconst.com.br

site da Academia http://www.abdconst.com.br/

Flavio Pansieri é Conselheiro da Ordem dos Advogados do Brasil do Estado do Paraná – Inscrição dele na OAB 31150
site da OAB-PR
http://intranet.oabpr.org.br/site/servicos/eleicao/chapas_composicao.asp?cd_chapa=11&cd_subsecao=01

Neste link tem uma matéria sobre o caso Ayubo
http://www.parana-online.com.br/editoria/cidades/news/141729/?noticia=DISPUTA+PARA+NAO+PERDER+GUARDA+DO+FILHO

O caso foi julgado em outro Estado, Rio Grande do Sul, porque Curitiba pertence ao STF da 4ª Região (http://www.trf4.jus.br/trf4/)

Ayubo Case
Guarapuava - PR is a brasilian city located in the State of Paraná. The state capital is Curitiba, which is 159 miles of Guarapuava city.

The lawyer Rita de Cassia Guimaraes is Flavio Pansieri, Professor of Constitutional Law at PUC-PR, a leading law schools in the State of Paraná and is also President of the Brazilian Academy of Constitutional Law.

Flavio Pansieri is on twitter  http://twitter/Pansieri  or @Pansieri
Adress:
Brazilian Academy of Constitutional Law Rua XV de Novembro, 964 - 2 º andar CEP: 80060-000 - Curitiba - PR
Phones: 41-3024.1167 / PhoneFax: 41-3027.1167
abdconst@abdconst.com.br site of the Academy http://www.abdconst.com.br/

Flavio Pansieri a Law Adviser Association of Brazil's Paraná State - Registration him in OAB –PR: 31150
site OAB-PR – Brazil:
http://intranet.oabpr.org.br/site/servicos/eleicao/chapas_composicao.asp?cd_chapa=11&cd_subsecao=01

This link has a story about the case Ayub
http://www.parana-online.com.br/editoria/cidades/news/141729/?noticia=DISPUTA+PARA+NAO+PERDER+GUARDA+DO+FILHO

The case was tried in another state, Rio Grande do Sul, Curitiba because belongs to the Supreme Court of the 4th Region (http://www.trf4.jus.br/trf4/)
Sorry, I am posting the translation of Google Translator.
If the information is confidential, I ask the Senior to remove them here.

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2010, 12:51:57 PM »
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Eu estou tentando ajudar o pai a levar de volta o seu filho para casa nos Estados Unidos.
Eu tenho facilidade de investigação e posso ajudar em todos os casos. Veja o meu blog http://bsholveri.blogspot.com . O que eu conseguir de cada caso eu posto aqui. Se quiserem aproveitar as informações que eu posso oferecer é só copiar e passar para o FBI ou Interpol ou para quem puder fazer algo para ajudar esses pais cujas crianças foram sequestradas. Eu não compactuo com as canalhices dos brasileiros e vou começar uma luta contra o segredo de justiça que esconde todos os crimes no Brasil. Existem milhões de brasileiros que pensam como eu. Brasileiros que querem um dia poder ter orgulho de seu país. Infelizmente agora só podemos ter vergonha de sermos brasileiros.
I'm trying to help his father to bring back his son home in the United States.
I have ease of research and can help in all cases. See my blog http://bsholveri.blogspot.com. What I get from each case I post here. If they want to take the information I can offer is only copy and move to the FBI or Interpol or anyone who can do something to help those parents whose children were abducted. I do not condone the knaveries of Brazilians and I will start a fight against secret justice that hides all the crimes in Brazil. There are millions of Brazilians who think like me. Brazilians who want one day to be proud of their country. Unfortunately now we can only be ashamed of being Brazilian.
Thank you for your attention and sorry, I did translation in Google Translator.
BSHolveri

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2010, 02:15:16 PM »
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Eu estou tentando ajudar o pai a levar de volta o seu filho para casa nos Estados Unidos.
Eu tenho facilidade de investigação e posso ajudar em todos os casos. Veja o meu blog http://bsholveri.blogspot.com . O que eu conseguir de cada caso eu posto aqui. Se quiserem aproveitar as informações que eu posso oferecer é só copiar e passar para o FBI ou Interpol ou para quem puder fazer algo para ajudar esses pais cujas crianças foram sequestradas. Eu não compactuo com as canalhices dos brasileiros e vou começar uma luta contra o segredo de justiça que esconde todos os crimes no Brasil. Existem milhões de brasileiros que pensam como eu. Brasileiros que querem um dia poder ter orgulho de seu país. Infelizmente agora só podemos ter vergonha de sermos brasileiros.
I'm trying to help his father to bring back his son home in the United States.
I have ease of research and can help in all cases. See my blog http://bsholveri.blogspot.com. What I get from each case I post here. If they want to take the information I can offer is only copy and move to the FBI or Interpol or anyone who can do something to help those parents whose children were abducted. I do not condone the knaveries of Brazilians and I will start a fight against secret justice that hides all the crimes in Brazil. There are millions of Brazilians who think like me. Brazilians who want one day to be proud of their country. Unfortunately now we can only be ashamed of being Brazilian.
Thank you for your attention and sorry, I did translation in Google Translator.
BSHolveri

 
Brazil has wonderful people, and is a wonderful country...The court system and government is a tad bit corrupt...but the US has it's faults too--as do many other countries. You should still be proud of your country and of your nationality; as all of the support you all have provided David and other LBP who have children in Brazil, it is a testiment to the true character that lies beneath the blanket of injustice currently seen in the Brazilian judicial system. :)
Devon Davenport - Father of Nadia Lynn ;)

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Re: Mãe de Lorenzo pode morar em Guarapuava - Estado de São Paulo
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2010, 08:01:02 PM »
Uhm...does Ariel know about this? His case (all inclusive) is pretty sensitive...I dunno if this should be on the forum without his permission.
Devon Davenport - Father of Nadia Lynn ;)