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Offline SageDad

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Hague Return Overturned
« on: August 25, 2010, 04:54:18 PM »
I went out to lunch today with some friends from the office.  As we were driving out my lawyer called me.  He told me the court had overturned the return order for Sage.  We won't have the full decision till sometime next week but we know it was not favorable.

He thinks they probably didn't outright deny Sage's return but just remanded the case to the state appeals court so that my now 3 year old son's voice can be heard because he was never formally given a chance to speak 2 years ago in the family court, or a year ago in the appeals court (even if neither the abductor nor myself ever asked that it be.)  I sat through lunch like I always do, acting like all is well with the world and wishing for it to end so I could go back to work and come home to an empty house.  I suppose the best case scenario is that we now go back in time to a court we left one year ago to allow my son to testify only to have the court say he is not, in fact, old enough yet for he wishes to be taken into consideration (heaven forbid we didn't at least give him the chance to express them though) and only then start over in the first level federal court.  In other words, maybe we can start over again in a lower court and maybe another year from now we can get a new "final decision" from the Mexican courts.

I want to thank the US State Department for making this possible.  Twenty years of non-compliance with the Hague Convention from our southern neighbor and most active treaty partner would never have been possible without their tacit approval.

I hope the rest of you find the justice that has eluded my family,
Carlos Bermudez, father of Sage Bermudez
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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2010, 04:56:57 PM »
God, Carlos. I'm so sorry.

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 06:30:51 PM »
I really don't know what to say except remain strong and never ever give up!
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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 07:19:02 PM »
I really don't know what to say except remain strong and never ever give up!

What Bob said......

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 08:18:14 PM »
Carlos.  I am beyond angry reading this, and, a bit embarrassed, as I just returned from coaching my son's first soccer practice --which I am afraid I take for granted.

I can only console you by reminding you that there is army of people behind you here who hope and pray that justice will eventually prevail.  It is your God given right to raise your son and no incompetent paper pusher at State or corrupt third world judge can ever change that.

Shame on the US State Department, and please keep us updated.
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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 08:21:13 PM »
Carlos, I am sooo sorry!!!! This is just unacceptable!

Hang in there and keep trying!

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 08:22:33 PM »
Am very sorry for this setback but hope and pray that somehow justice will prevail.  Will keep you and all the other LBP in my prayers.  Stay positive!

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 08:24:06 PM »
This idea that they want a child and a victim of parental kidnapping to voice their opinion is kind of ridiculous especially for a child this young.  The very fact that the child was kidnapped then alienated from the LBP very likely means that the child would have grown attached to the abductor and who knows what kind of psychological games have been played by the abductor to further alienate the child from the LBP.

There needs to be more criminal prosecutions of the abductors.  It seems foreign courts simply try to find the excuses and loopholes to allow the abduction most of the time than actually do what they should be doing and returning the abducted children.

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2010, 08:40:19 PM »
Ohhhhh Carlos, I am so very sorry to read about this news. This is not
fair and I just hope and pray that you will win this uphill battle in the
end. I for the life of me don't understand why they think a young
child should be heard especially after being subjected to parental
alienation that we all know is happening. It just isn't right that you
have to fight so hard without any progress while the abductors are
going on and living life as usual.

I know we can't wave a magic wand and right this wrong but we
will do what was have been doing and keep fighting until we are
able to right this injustice.

You and all the other LBP are always in my prayers.

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 08:53:44 PM »
I imagine it should take the mother all of 5 minutes to thoroughly convince your 3-year old son what to say in court. The level of ridiculousness only seems to increase in the world of international parental child abduction. :madgo

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 08:55:24 PM »
Carlos,
As I read this I felt sick! You are in my prayers....NEVER GIVE UP!

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 09:03:27 PM »
Nothing to say except what has already been voiced.  I know how you feel but this will all get easier with time...but never quit and I know you won't.
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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 10:18:23 PM »
Carlos,
I am saddened and sickened to read about this reversal - wishing you and your family continued strength. Like Karl, I too am confident that you will stay the course.

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 03:08:13 AM »
Not much to say except what all others said above: Stay strong and don't give up!
"In the end, everything will be okay. If it's not okay, then you have not reached the end." -- Unknown.

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Re: Hague Return Overturned
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 07:54:22 AM »
Carlos - life is so unfair to you and I am so sorry this nightmare continues.  You are in my thoughts often and wish you strength.
xo