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Offline LukieD

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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2011, 05:59:32 PM »
sickening video to say they least but let's hope that this ordeal comes to an end soon. The worst part of the video is how she repeatedly states that she's the only one Emily knows as if that somehow justifies what she's doing. What a selfish and narcissistic statement to make. What she's leaving out is that her daughter has a loving father who misses her dearly yet she does not know it. That's more horrible than anything else.

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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2011, 06:55:41 PM »
I might lose my dinner.  That was pathetic.  Hoping Emily is home with you soon.

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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2011, 08:42:25 PM »
For once, act like a responsible human being, and give him his daughter, and stop with the nonsense, and lies. 
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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2011, 10:44:59 PM »
Roy so sorry you are going through this.  This individual reminds me of my daughter Kali's Kidnapper.  Always playing the victim.  Using Emily like that really borders on child exploitation.


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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2011, 10:25:56 AM »
UPDATE:

No news yet - expect to have some shortly.

One issue is raising its head regarding Trina's video.

For the record: Roy did not abuse Trina - this is a blatant lie by her to gain sympathy and justify the kidnapping of Emily to Costa Rica.

I have personally checked Roy's criminal history - I have found nothing in the last 20 years - so much for drug and violence convictions which Trina is also claiming.

The bottom line is Roy is a good dad - he has extensive visitation with his two older children, both boys, and I have seen how they are with him on Skype - they love him, and given a chance, Emily will too I have absolutely no doubt.

Let's be clear - Trina is a child kidnapper who is manipulative and deceitful, actually she is a downright liar whose options are rapidly diminishing and is now seeking to generate sympathy in the court of public opinion in Costa Rica.  In the last 2 years, Trina has made allegations of Roy being a drug addict and violent - but she has offered not one shred of evidence - if she had any, she would have crucified Roy with it by now and the fact she hasn't done so is simply explained - she has no evidence and none exists.
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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2011, 10:12:03 PM »
Roy & All-

Let's put the personal allegations like "sickening", "loosing my dinner" "Liar and deceitful person" aside.  At the end of the day it doesn't matter.  It looks like Emily is coming home and that is what matters. 

Objectively, I think Roy has and does show a tremendous amount of stamina.  I think, even with Emily coming home, the battle and challenge will just begin.  That is when he will need the most support.  I think. 

Objectively, I feel desperately sorry for Trina.  In no way shape or form I can condone her actions.  But over the past 6 weeks she has had an opportunity to negotiate.  She chose not to.  And is now, of course, desperate.  6 weeks ago, she had a lot of options.  Now I think rather limited.  6 weeks ago, 2 weeks ago, I would have done what I could to get her back with Emily safely.  She chose not to be a willing participant to the inevitable.  It was Trina's choice, and now even I cannot allow myself to assist.

I have empathy for Trina's fear, but 0% for her actions. 

@Trina (If you read this):  You made your bed, you must lie in it.  I'm sorry you did what you did in your choices.  But, now, there is no help for you.  Let it go.  It is what it is.

Roy, hang tight.  I admire you so much and I am sure Emily will as well.  And say a prayer for Trina.  She is going to need some empathy.

Let me know what I can do.
Thanks so Much!
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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2011, 11:04:44 PM »
sickening video to say they least but let's hope that this ordeal comes to an end soon. The worst part of the video is how she repeatedly states that she's the only one Emily knows as if that somehow justifies what she's doing. What a selfish and narcissistic statement to make. What she's leaving out is that her daughter has a loving father who misses her dearly yet she does not know it. That's more horrible than anything else.


Well said, Lukie!  I hope that Roy has the opportunity to hold Emily real soon. 

Jara - Other's usage of words describing their feelings of the video is no different than what you stated after you made your initial statement (those were your feelings).  IMHO, Trina forcing Emily to be on the video was disgusting, and I'm entitled to state my opinion.  I don't feel sorry for her at all.  She made the decisions to do what she did and what she continues to do. 
"Every parent who has a child and they tuck him in at night, or her in at night, and they wish the best and only the best and they will always protect the child and do whatever they can, but most of the time they don't have to prove it. I'm in the proving grounds, to myself and to my child.  I have to get him home and I will do whatever I have to. I'll never stop to save him."  --David Goldman

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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2011, 11:45:36 PM »
@ Bree-

Thanks for the awareness.  Of course everyone should express their feelings.  Most of us are LBHP's.  And we are passionate about that.  So should we be.  Without us, there would be no fight for justice.  But there is never a winner in this situation.  Mostly it is the child that will loose.  The action's of what Trina did was wrong.  I was personally begging that she would come home on her own accord.  Praying that she not present the child in the video, which she did.  You don't use a 2.5 year old as an emotional pawn, asking for bail money in the same breath.  It is wrong.  You do not accuse Dad of abuse and drug addictions where in fact you met a guy online and went to Costa Rica with your kid, leaving Dad and a mess behind.  That is wrong.  Then gather sympathy for your actions, that is wrong.

But there is a little girl and a thing called empathy.  At the end of the day, Trina messed up.  But it is Emily that will pay the consequences.  And I do feel empathy for Trina.  As it is possible she is going to spend time in jail, have only supervised visits with her daughter (at one point) and miss the most incredible things that happen as her daughter develops.   

Trina had a choice, true.  But I would never wish that outcome on any Mom or Dad on what Trina is now facing.  I also would never wish the experience that Roy has had due to Trina's actions.

Emily should..need..want..both parents. 

I think it very constructive, regardless of opinion to support Emily. 

Thanks so Much!
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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2011, 09:43:01 AM »
UPDATE:
Nothing yet but I expect some news in this morning.
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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2011, 05:34:59 PM »
UPDATE:
Nothing to report - we're still waiting.
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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2011, 03:45:20 PM »
I was thinking about Trina's post at BSH and how she would have us believe that she was willing to bring Emily home.   :rolleyes:  And then, I saw this article:

http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2011/february/03/costarica11020303.htm

Constitutional Court Stops Return Of Child To The U.S.

The Patronato Nacional de la Infancia (PANI) - the Costa Rican child welfare agency - cannot send back to the United States the small child whose father is seeking her return. The PANI action is blocked by a decision of the Sala Constitucional after accepting a writ of habeas corpus filed by the girl's mother, Trina Atwell.

The Court ordered a precautionary measure to ensure the child does not leave Costa Rica until the case is resolved.

The Court also ordered the Tribunal de Familia, the directora ejecutiva del PANI the head of Migración to provide a full report to the magistrates within three days.

Atwell filed the write of habeas corpus to prevent her child being returned by the PANI to her father in the United States, who she alleges to be abusive and who filed an action for the return of the girl even though he provided authorization for her leaving the U.S.

On Monday the PANI announced that it had no choice but to return the child to the U.S. based on the father's court action and reciprocal agreements. The move would have possibly forced Atwell, who is facing charges of kidnapping in the U.S., to return to the U.S. to accompany the child.

Atwell and the child left the U.S. in February 2009, choosing to live in Costa Rica, fleeing alleged domestic violence.

The child continues under the protection of the PANI and according to Jorge Urbina, general manager of the PANI, they will wait for the Court decision to see if the child will continue in a shelter or returned to the mother while the Court case continues.
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"Every parent who has a child and they tuck him in at night, or her in at night, and they wish the best and only the best and they will always protect the child and do whatever they can, but most of the time they don't have to prove it. I'm in the proving grounds, to myself and to my child.  I have to get him home and I will do whatever I have to. I'll never stop to save him."  --David Goldman

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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2011, 03:49:18 PM »
I was thinking about Tina's post at BSH and how she would have us believe that she was willing to bring Emily home.   :rolleyes:  And then, I saw this article:

http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2011/february/03/costarica11020303.htm

Constitutional Court Stops Return Of Child To The U.S.

The child continues under the protection of the PANI and according to Jorge Urbina, general manager of the PANI, they will wait for the Court decision to see if the child will continue in a shelter or returned to the mother while the Court case continues.




So Emily is not with Trina?  For what reason would the HC be granted?    Roy, you are in my prayers.

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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2011, 10:11:07 AM »
UPDATE:

No news from Costa Rica yet - Trina has the support of several women's rights groups in both the US and Costa Rica and a public campaign has been initiated in Costa Rica to help sway public opinion not to return Emily to the US and back to her father.

For those who are interested in the allegations Trina has been making against the father, I have been doing some digging of my own and there is a history of alcoholism, child abandonment, marriage wrecking and deceit - by Trina.

http://emilyrosehindle.blogspot.com/2011/02/emily-koyama-mother-claims-domestic.html
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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2011, 12:24:19 PM »
You can tell by watching that video that she is not a nice person and doesn't give a rats @## about her daughter.  I'm not surprised by any of this.  Terrible that she has abandoned a child and goes to her character, look at what she's done!  She does not look or act frightended in the least and she even laughed in the video, not a person who is scared.  Disgusting.

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Re: Let's tell the whole story
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2011, 03:24:00 PM »
Just curious. I apologize if this has been posted before but I don't recall reading it.

If Trina legally in Costa Rica? Can she stay there as long as she wants? As far as I know, she is not a citizen of CR or has any ties there.
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