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Offline Aida

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2009, 09:50:49 PM »
My heart breaks for you. It is a though thing to go thru.

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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2009, 10:05:25 PM »
Mine too Aida...it's heartbreaking!
 
I'm not sure how you respond to that.  Bless your heart and theirs.  It is so not fair that they are caught up in this just because she wanted to leave - how selfish that she put her own needs ahead of your children.  
 
Your children are absolutely beautiful!  Do they look like you?
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2009, 10:41:36 PM »
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Mine too Aida...it's heartbreaking!
 
I'm not sure how you respond to that. Bless your heart and theirs. It is so not fair that they are caught up in this just because she wanted to leave - how selfish that she put her own needs ahead of your children.
 
Your children are absolutely beautiful! Do they look like you?

Well... we told our daughter that she better think of signing a prenaptual that includes how and where the kids will be should thing don't work out. She is engaged. We would never have thought of that if it was not for David and Sean! May not be very romantic, but it is todays reality. :)

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2009, 12:13:47 AM »
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Well... we told our daughter that she better think of signing a prenaptual that includes how and where the kids will be should thing don't work out. She is engaged. We would never have thought of that if it was not for David and Sean! May not be very romantic, but it is todays reality. :)

 
I am with you there. And i hope none of this happens to your daughter. I would sign a prenup that's for sure.;)

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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2009, 06:01:52 AM »
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I am with you there. And i hope none of this happens to your daughter. I would sign a prenup that's for sure.;)
The pre-nuptial would need to be signed through courts in both countries. Otherwise, you're simply setting yourself up for a legal battle to get the pre-nuptial recognized in the other country.

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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2009, 10:57:56 AM »
My husband and I are in process of adopting and yes, this thought has crossed my mind - what if he took her and ran? :nixweiss: I have no reason to believe he would ever do that, but I'm sure these guys didn't either.  It's such a sad sad situation.  My husband is in the military so I'm quite sure I could track him down.
"Every parent who has a child and they tuck him in at night, or her in at night, and they wish the best and only the best and they will always protect the child and do whatever they can, but most of the time they don't have to prove it. I'm in the proving grounds, to myself and to my child.  I have to get him home and I will do whatever I have to. I'll never stop to save him."  --David Goldman

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2009, 09:29:53 PM »
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I gladly signed the petition!!!  I don't understand how this can continue to happen!!!! what is wrong with people!   I'm sure this abductor has heard about David Goldman's story and is hopefully shaking in her boots!!!!
It continues to happen because there are no consequences whatsoever for the perpetrators.
My ex-wife kidnapped my 2 1/2 year old daughter. She has an open arrest warrant in the US but the US will not pursue extradition claiming that Spain would not return their own nationals (she acquired the spanish nationality after years of staying there, a naturalized citizen).
The Florida DA office told me that if the perpetrator set foot in the US she would be apprehended but as they would not extradite it means NOTHING.
As long as there are no consequences for the perpetrators we will have more and more cases. Actually making the public aware of how easy it is to get away with this crime it makes it more dangerous for all of us.
US Government must be tougher and extradite each and every perpetrator.They know my ex-wife's address in Madrid, yet they will not act.
Unfortunately if you steal money the FBI and Interpol will follow to the end of the world. Steal an american citizen, take it to another country and NOTHING HAPPENS. That has been my experience unfortunately...

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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2009, 03:51:52 PM »
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It continues to happen because there are no consequences whatsoever for the perpetrators.
My ex-wife kidnapped my 2 1/2 year old daughter. She has an open arrest warrant in the US but the US will not pursue extradition claiming that Spain would not return their own nationals (she acquired the spanish nationality after years of staying there, a naturalized citizen).
The Florida DA office told me that if the perpetrator set foot in the US she would be apprehended but as they would not extradite it means NOTHING.
As long as there are no consequences for the perpetrators we will have more and more cases. Actually making the public aware of how easy it is to get away with this crime it makes it more dangerous for all of us.
US Government must be tougher and extradite each and every perpetrator.They know my ex-wife's address in Madrid, yet they will not act.
Unfortunately if you steal money the FBI and Interpol will follow to the end of the world. Steal an american citizen, take it to another country and NOTHING HAPPENS. That has been my experience unfortunately...


I've been pushing the FBI to file for extradition too.  They claim they are "looking into it" and discussing it with the Attorney General, and that they aren't sure that Mexico will extradite (even though I have confirmed that they do w/ my Mexican attorneys and have sent them the laws and shown them cases where Mexico has extradited in the past).  So far, my experience is no different from yours.  Parental kidnapping, especially by mother's, is not a priority for them, and not something they want to make an international issue out of.
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2009, 08:17:30 PM »
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I've been pushing the FBI to file for extradition too.  They claim they are "looking into it" and discussing it with the Attorney General, and that they aren't sure that Mexico will extradite (even though I have confirmed that they do w/ my Mexican attorneys and have sent them the laws and shown them cases where Mexico has extradited in the past).  So far, my experience is no different from yours.  Parental kidnapping, especially by mother's, is not a priority for them, and not something they want to make an international issue out of.


I am pushing the DOJ to get a federal warrant for the kidnapper (I don't want to call her ex-wife because a kidnapping is a kidnapping... period, even worse when committed by someone you once trusted...). We must push for this together for our sake, and the thousands of children that will be kidnapped in the future if these bureaucracies fail to recognize this crime for what it really is.

My daughter was taken from me when she was 2 1/2 years old... she is now 22 and brainwashed to think that this was not a big deal and refuses to see me. The daughter that could have been died the day the kidnapping took place and will never come back... isn't this one of the most horrible crimes you can commit against a child and a left behind father or mother and extended family? Yet we, the victims have to push to get what should have been automatically ours which is bringing federal charges and extradition into play...

I asked my senator for Pennsylvania to help me push the DOJ to get the federal warrant and you should do the same. We cannot change the past but we can do a lot about the future and that is the reason why I continue fighting after such a long time.

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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2009, 06:57:16 PM »
Hi, just a heads up on my case there are only two cases of abduction from Australia to Brazil at this point in time

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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2009, 08:57:17 PM »
Actually, there is another Hague Convention, i'm not sure if it's been ratified by enough countries yet or if Brazil is even one of them, but it's called the Hague Choice of Court convention...or something similiar :) and it allows for contracts to clearly stipulate the country who will have jurisdiction during civil disputes.  I believe it's intent is more for business contracts, but a pre-nuptial is, in a sense, a type of business contract.  Would be something worth looking into if you are marrying someone with strong ties to another country.
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2009, 10:21:22 AM »
For all the fresh new faces we see joining our tight family here, I see the sense of urgency about them.  Take a deep breath and slowly let it out.  We are really making some breakthrough ground work here parents.  I was wanting everything done yesterday, but had to learn things must follow a certain protocal.  Until you're ready to fight HARD...paper trail, paper trail, paper trail, of everything that you do.  Who you spoke with, names, times, dates, what was said, and so on.  That's the 1st thing I learned when I went to court.  Just something I can pass onto you now.
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2009, 09:01:16 PM »
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I gladly signed the petition!!!  I don't understand how this can continue to happen!!!! what is wrong with people!   I'm sure this abductor has heard about David Goldman's story and is hopefully shaking in her boots!!!!
 I signed the petition too.
I undertand why this can continue to happen..
" They made it tha Hague Law, But is with mystakes.
Because people is usind the time and "adaption" for excuses.
So is so easy to do, Until how much time this will continues to hapen!!!:nixweiss:So, any people can take children, and came to Brasil, or another country.
And can, say to jurge just, the same ridiculus world.
" the children is adaptation here, will be a torture to remove".
Its a shame. The Law need to change.
God help you. Dont give up.:)

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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2009, 09:34:54 PM »
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This list of abducted children sure is growing.

GGorgas, I signed  the petition, and I'm sorry for what you are going thru.
 
I will keep you as I keep all the othes LBP in my prayes
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2009, 10:13:06 AM »
Thank you to all, i am greatfull.