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StrngConviction:
If she did something Illegal and the authorities know this , spend your money getting the charges pressed and getting the FBI involved ASAP so they can extradite her.
 The Hague as it stands will only cost you money and your child if she acquired an order she can present to the columbia authorities as valid when she left.What happens in cases like yours is they drag it on till the child is settled and your out of money. A foreign country will not look behind a court order that was valid when she left.
Please , get the charges pressed and get an extradition ASAP, time is of the essence.

Jacobsfather:
For my custody case the most difficult thing was getting the final judgment vacated, the better part of 2 years has been just trying to make any contact with my son's mother to serve her with a subpoena or convince the judge that the original order was fraudulent. I dont see my ex-wife coming back to the jurisdiction of the Broward County Courts to explain herself and risk criminal charges and certainly have Jacob placed in my custody. I do have an emergency pick up order (effectively throwing out the final judgment) authorizing any US Law enforcement officer or representative to take Jacob and immediately place him into my custody. The State Department also has a hold on my son's Passport. You are right about the validity of the court order as it read when she left, but my argument has and continues to be that that order was rendered as a result of defrauding the court. The facts of the case require all parties to be in front of a judge to sort this out. What I really need is a Genie and 3 wishes.

StrngConviction:
thats why i said pursue charges so the FBI can force her back. Under  Hague guidelines , the country she is in will not force her back because when she left she had the custody, no matter how she got it , she got it.  In other words she DID NOT  wrongfully remove the child because she had the order. We in America know she got that order through fraud but until she is convicted of that the order still stands in their country. So dont fall for that Hague BS and not press criminal charges or you will have wasted to much time. My prayers are with you buddy.

LukieD:

--- Quote from: StrngConviction on May 01, 2012, 09:26:37 PM ---If she did something Illegal and the authorities know this , spend your money getting the charges pressed and getting the FBI involved ASAP so they can extradite her.

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I don't think one could reasonably expect Colombia to extradite one of its citizen's for these offenses. Maybe for drug trafficking, but not child abduction-related offenses. From the State Dept handbook on Colombia:

"Provide information concerning the criminal aspects of the case, including the use of federal and state criminal warrants against an abducting parent, passport revocation, and extradition from a foreign country to effect return of a child to the U.S.[there’s no extradition from Colombia in these cases, so why mention it?]

Here's an article on some changes Colombia was considering making to its extradition treaty with the U.S.

http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/9515-court-considers-amending-us-extradition-treaty.html

StrngConviction:
I would mention it because if she had a court order of full custody, the Hague is not going to do him any good.
 I sure dont expect them to hand her over for no reason as the state  dept. would suggest. Like i said , the hague is worthless if she had a legal document to hand to her government, signatory  State or not.  I, the FBI ,and the Dept. of Homeland Security  believe  if your child was kidnapped as mine was( through fraud of the court and forgery ) you can waste time and not press charges , spend all your money on attorneys and get thrown to the way side like most of us that had an order for return did or do what is suggested by getting charges against her and hope Columbia does start extraditing or she comes back to the states and they catch her and your child at a port.
   Ireland refuses to look past an Order My Ex illegally got even with the police statements that she is wanted in question to forgery charges and the fraud on the court, aaaand  a judges order for his return aaaand an afidavit of law stating she abducted him that was hired by their court. I couldnt imagine being in a spot like yours and not starting off with criminal charges.
 As far as the post saying "No extraditions in these cases" that is correct because a Hague trial is a civil , not a criminal court. Its two different Beasts.


--- Quote from: LukieD on May 02, 2012, 09:34:09 AM ---I don't think one could reasonably expect Colombia to extradite one of its citizen's for these offenses. Maybe for drug trafficking, but not child abduction-related offenses. From the State Dept handbook on Colombia:

"Provide information concerning the criminal aspects of the case, including the use of federal and state criminal warrants against an abducting parent, passport revocation, and extradition from a foreign country to effect return of a child to the U.S.[there’s no extradition from Colombia in these cases, so why mention it?]

Here's an article on some changes Colombia was considering making to its extradition treaty with the U.S.

http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/9515-court-considers-amending-us-extradition-treaty.html

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