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Offline SageDad

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Welfare and Whereabouts Visit
« on: May 08, 2013, 08:33:53 PM »
With the quality and integrity I have come to expect from the US Department of State I recently received the attached Welfare and Whereabouts Visit report from the Office of Children's Issues.

Prior to this detailed report, it had been three years since Consular Affairs honored my requests for a Welfare and Whereabouts visit on my son being held hostage since 2008 to Mexico's ineffective judicial process despite the Vienna Convention’s stipulation that such visits occur every 6 months.
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Re: Welfare and Whereabouts Visit
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 09:28:56 AM »
That's it?  Nothing about what they talked about?  It's been 5 years now.  I'm so sorry Carlos, I can't imagine the pain you must go through daily. 

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Re: Welfare and Whereabouts Visit
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 11:52:05 AM »
Hi Sage Dad.  When my boys were kidnapped to Singapore in 2009, a W&W visit was conducted by the Embassy via my request to the OCI.  I was told they can only conduct a visit upon my written request.  As my case dragged on, I was advised against further visits as the notes could be used by their mother to show the children are "well settled" and work against a return.  Believe it or not, the OCI and the Embassy did another W&W visit without any request from me.  No doubt, I was very upset.  When I questioned the OCI, they then said they do not need any request or authorization from me to do the W&W check.  Something about the law allowing them to conduct one every quarter.  That is certainly opposite from what I was told in 2009 and how I had to fill out the request form before and W&W visit could be conducted.  The OCI is a waste of air, people there only care about their own interests and what box they can check off to show they did something.  The Left Behind Parent is not a critical part of the equation for them. 

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Re: Welfare and Whereabouts Visit
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 12:11:40 PM »
Hi Sage Dad.  When my boys were kidnapped to Singapore in 2009, a W&W visit was conducted by the Embassy via my request to the OCI.  I was told they can only conduct a visit upon my written request.  As my case dragged on, I was advised against further visits as the notes could be used by their mother to show the children are "well settled" and work against a return.  Believe it or not, the OCI and the Embassy did another W&W visit without any request from me.  No doubt, I was very upset.  When I questioned the OCI, they then said they do not need any request or authorization from me to do the W&W check.  Something about the law allowing them to conduct one every quarter.  That is certainly opposite from what I was told in 2009 and how I had to fill out the request form before and W&W visit could be conducted.  The OCI is a waste of air, people there only care about their own interests and what box they can check off to show they did something.  The Left Behind Parent is not a critical part of the equation for them.


Yes, I know of many such instances like this.  They are profoundly biased towards finding abducting children are doing well.  Any other finding might be used against them to demand that they actually do their jobs.  For this reason I have always been ambivalent about requesting such visits.  I can't count the times parents have told me that State's reports were horrible white washes that so glowing praised the child's current conditions in the abducted to country that they, in point of fact, could be used by abductors as evidence of how "well settled and adapted" abducted children are.



More glaring than the omission of photos in this "report" (as redacted and represented to me by State) is the total lack of commentary as to the motive for this gross oversight. Were any pictures taken? Were they even requested? It doesn't say despite the fact that requesting such pictures is standard operating procedure. Does my son Sage even claim to know he is an American citizen? Did he mention his father or American family? What did he talk about? Fully half of this pseudo-paragraph long “report” was dedicated to saying that Sage goes to school in the remote city of Celaya, did not bring a toy with him to the visit, and that his mom drives him to school and picks him up.  Now I wouldn't really expect State to know it, indeed, having received missives that refer to Sage as “her,” I don’t expect them to recall that my abducted, American child is male from one week to the next, but the Hague court in Mexico has tried doing half a dozen inspections of this supposed school in Celaya and have never found my son to be present there and, after I spent thousands in litigation and tuition costs ordered that Sage attend the finest private school in his local city of Salamanca where the curriculum is bilingual.

Notwithstanding the Mexican courts inability to establish these, patently dis-proven and unattributed, statements about Sage going to school in a remote city from where he lives (which, meaninglessly and uselessly comprise half of the “Welfare and Whereabouts” visit,) they can also be used by opposing counsel as evidence that my son is enrolled in a school that the courts themselves have been unable to independently verify.  Did the Consular Official go to this supposed Celaya school?   Of course we know he did not, so why does he parrot this (totally false) claim as though it were fact?  Perhaps just to pad a report that, without this stupidity, has nothing left.

I honestly view this report, and indeed the totality of recent and overall communications with the Office of Children's Issues as their way of telling me to go CENSORED myself.   Though they are too diplomatic, and cowardly, to come right out and say it, the message they consistently convey to me could not be any clearer. Their strategy is to force me, and parents like me, to deal with ignorance, bureaucracy, stupidity, hostility, feigned ignorance, shifting goal posts, intentionally misinterpreting, misconstruing or misrepresenting facts and policies from one day to the next and generally engaging in disingenuous and insincere behavior and incompetence in a concerted effort to break our spirits so that they can mark off yet another case as "resolved."

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Re: Welfare and Whereabouts Visit
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 02:29:37 PM »
I asked for a Health and Welfare visit and requested specific information:
Any special medical care required by the children including any continued medication
If the children had any recent illness injury or hospitalization including any medications, details about prognosis, plans for ongoing treatment and any long term implications
The school the children attending there and if they at appropriate grade level for their age. Are there any special education needs, how well are the children doing in school including grades?
Photos outside the house and around the neighborhood, streets, sidewalks, park … etc
Offer my children the use of a cell phone to communicate directly with me. Offer to make a recording, offer to allow communication with me via email, Facebook, Skype or telephone and facilitate the exchange of contact information.
The taking parent responded to the Health and Welfare visit request saying she would like to speak to her lawyer before answering any questions or responding to the visit request. Her attorney asked the Embassy to provide a welfare and whereabouts visit request in writing.
The Embassy sent this message to Ms. Rivera’s attorney
“El 19 de febrero, el Sr. Makielski pidió al Departamento de Estado visitar a sus hijos para verificar su bienestar. A él le gustaría saber sobre el progreso escolar de los niños, su salud y su situación en general.
Por favor, informamos si la madre de los niños desea permitir que el personal de la Embajada  visite a los niños. Gracias.”
On 19 April I received notification that the mother declined the visit.

For this reason I found it very odd that the TPs attorney,  Dilia Leticia Jorge Mera, tweeted an article “Children Parenting Their Parents: A Dangerous Consequence of Divorce”. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rosalind-sedacca/children-parenting-their-_b_3112321.html?utm_hp_ref=tw%3Fshow_comment_id%3D248035852#comment_248035852  How can someone who advocated so much conflict and disruption in my children’s life, truly believe in the content of this article.
I place the my children rights above my own; Children have the right to have a relationship with both parents; I stand against domestic violence and child abuse; The amicable return of Abducted children is the best solution; I will obey the laws of the United States


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Re: Welfare and Whereabouts Visit
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Re: Welfare and Whereabouts Visit
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Re: Welfare and Whereabouts Visit
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