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Title: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chicybaby on December 23, 2009, 09:09:53 PM
I just saw a commercial about David and Sean. It was quick and I almost missed it did anyone else see it?? OMG!
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: gr8one on December 23, 2009, 09:14:29 PM
I missed it! :(
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: pam.in.ny on December 23, 2009, 09:15:15 PM
Yes, I saw it as well. I am speculating that with Jeff Rossen having been with Sean this time in Brazil that they will be covering it more than the past few days.

I'm always up early, for some reason can never sleep later than 5:30 or so, I'll be sure to tune in.
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: KLG on December 23, 2009, 09:17:33 PM
I saw... looks like they are planning major coverage in the morning. This is such a huge story and they know we are all watching, waiting to know David and Sean were united (although I will be at this computer bright and early).
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Stoopherzz on December 23, 2009, 09:17:36 PM
Is there going to be live news coverage or just talking about it for a couple of minutes? I'll be tuned in to both OGlobo and The Today Show!
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: chicybaby on December 23, 2009, 09:23:26 PM
I was planning on sleeping a little late not anymore! It talked about reuniting but its probably just trying to get us to tune in! My guess is they will talk to David about the reunion either way I am about to faint!
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: SWEET72 on December 23, 2009, 09:25:31 PM
I just set it to record on my DVR in case I miss it!
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Stoopherzz on December 23, 2009, 09:26:40 PM
Quote from: SWEET72;58266
I just set it to record on my DVR in case I miss it!

 
good idea, i'll do the same
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Kerry on December 23, 2009, 09:33:09 PM
Request to all our wonderful Brazilian friends on here.......

I for one am English (British) speaking only; don't understand one word of Portuguese.............. ...so wondered if any/all of you can add the translations to all the Brazilian reports you read/hear and post on here tomorrow.

Every titbit is a gem to read.

Please .............and thank you in advance.

Kerry :)
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: william2009 on December 23, 2009, 09:36:48 PM
i speak Portuguese and i can translate all the reports i see no problem
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Kerry on December 23, 2009, 09:37:26 PM
Thanks ever so William........
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: william2009 on December 23, 2009, 09:39:28 PM
no problem ill be waking up early to both globo international and nbc to see if they have david speaking.  i have been a waiting for this for more than a year now and i cant wait till david gets his son back.
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Stoopherzz on December 23, 2009, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: Kerry;58280
Request to all our wonderful Brazilian friends on here.......
 
I for one am English (British) speaking only; don't understand one word of Portuguese.............. ...so wondered if any/all of you can add the translations to all the Brazilian reports you read/hear and post on here tomorrow.
 
Every titbit is a gem to read.
 
Please .............and thank you in advance.
 
Kerry :)
will do!
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: mfer on December 23, 2009, 10:05:53 PM
OMG I just saw the promo for "Bringing Sean Home" for tomorrow's Today show.  
:bawling::bawling::bawling:
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: gr8one on December 23, 2009, 10:10:42 PM
Ok just set my DVR!  I can't wait to see how this goes.  I am so thrilled for the Goldman's
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Chuckles on December 23, 2009, 10:11:35 PM
Hmmm... looks like mimosas for Xmas eve breakfast.  Hope I make it to the midnight service!  :D
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 23, 2009, 10:13:46 PM
Quote from: mfer;58329
OMG I just saw the promo for "Bringing Sean Home" for tomorrow's Today show.  
:bawling::bawling::bawling:

What did it say? Anything specific? Or just like general coverage?
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Audax on December 23, 2009, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;58340
What did it say? Anything specific? Or just like general coverage?


RG, I think they are just tears of joy...
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: tdmiller on December 23, 2009, 10:52:47 PM
Saw the clip during the 6pm news on NBC.  I believe they will devote more than just a few minutes to this piece.  Keep praying "WHEELS UP".
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: mfer on December 23, 2009, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;58340
What did it say? Anything specific? Or just like general coverage?
Showed clips (from the past) of a distressed David then a couple of Sean & said something like.. "Bringing Sean Home" after 5 long years & many disappointments will this father & son finally be reunited.....  very touching.
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 23, 2009, 11:08:24 PM
Quote from: mfer;58388
Showed clips (from the past) of a distressed David then a couple of Sean & said something like.. "Bringing Sean Home" after 5 long years & many disappointments will this father & son finally be reunited.....  very touching.

Hello, waterworks :crying:

Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: chicybaby on December 23, 2009, 11:08:35 PM
Quote from: mfer;58388
Showed clips (from the past) of a distressed David then a couple of Sean & said something like.. "Bringing Sean Home" after 5 long years & many disappointments will this father & son finally be reunited.....  very touching.

The music is what puts you over the edge!
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: Wendy on December 23, 2009, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: chicybaby;58402
The music is what puts you over the edge!

I think I'm going to invest in the Kleenex company tomorrow!!  There are going to be a lot of happy tears flowing!!
Title: Re: Today Show Thursday 12/24?
Post by: mfer on December 23, 2009, 11:24:58 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;58401
Hello, waterworks :crying:

yes it was a tear fest over here.

Quote from: Wendy;58410
I think I'm going to invest in the Kleenex company tomorrow!!  There are going to be a lot of happy tears flowing!!


kleenex, champers & some chocolate for me. that is if i can stomach it been down w/ the flu. but tomorrow will be so wonderful i will be better by then.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tartine on December 24, 2009, 05:14:06 AM
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/cotidiano/ult95u670826.shtml
 
I apologize if this has already been posted. I love to hear that David is already in the US Consulate waiting for Sean! (sorry, in portuguese)
 
 The article basically says that the delivery of Sean will be done at the US Consulate, security has been put in place in the vicinity of the building and that David has been at the Consulate since 7.30 am to wait for Sean. :) yay!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SFBayAreaLibra on December 24, 2009, 05:23:50 AM
Awesome. They have 36 minutes to comply. Praying.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 05:23:58 AM
Quote from: tartine;58644
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/cotidiano/ult95u670826.shtml
 
I apologize if this has already been posted. I love to hear that David is already in the US Consulate waiting for Sean! (sorry, in portuguese)
 
The article basically says that the delivery of Sean will be done at the US Consulate, security has been put in place in the vicinity of the building and that David has been at the Consulate since 7.30 am to wait for Sean. :) yay!

Thank you for posting that and may I just add, WHOO HOOOOO!!!:yeahthat:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SFBayAreaLibra on December 24, 2009, 05:29:16 AM
CNN JUST showed pics of Sean and David and said coming up!  PLEASE I pray they show someone live at the US Embassy in Brazil.  Please - on commercial right now.  CNN!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 05:36:53 AM
He's GOT him!!
NBC just showed dark side leaving consulate and David walking out with Sean.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 05:37:57 AM
Too bad there wasn't security provided to not mob them. BUT...Sean's where he belongs. Hopefully they're on their way to the airport!!
 
I woke up earlier than normal (wonder why) and was lucky enough to turn on TV in time to catch this.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tartine on December 24, 2009, 05:38:44 AM
Wow!!!!   I'm SO HAPPY for them!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 05:39:18 AM
It wont be long now. I really hope Sean's grandmother didn't behave with too much drama in front of him. Afterall, it's not like she will be denied visitation.
But on a happier note, perhaps not too far in the future, David will have new video memories with Sean.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 05:39:54 AM
Quote from: lisacallenwood;58659
He's GOT him!!
NBC just showed dark side leaving consulate and David walking out with Sean.

REJOICING!!!:cheer:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Amazee on December 24, 2009, 05:43:40 AM
I missed NBC showing that.  Does anyone have video?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: roger on December 24, 2009, 05:44:19 AM
David was already in the Consulate, got in there escorted by the police.

Silvana, Raimundo and JPLS escorted Sean, crossed the street with no police protection. They drove their own car.

Sean was wearing the Brazilian National Team soccer shirt. He looked scared because they were being chased by approximately 20 different cameras and microphones.

Silvana looked devastated but was answering questions shouted by the reporters.

This family had no interest in protecting the boy from the media crowd.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tartine on December 24, 2009, 05:45:47 AM
http://cbn.globoradio.globo.com/home/HOME.htm
 
Granny did not get permission to accompany them on a chartered airplane!  Yay!!!!  No more parental allienation!  :)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 05:46:39 AM
NBC showed cruella and her husband leaving and Sean with someone they SAID was David with Sean. On another thread they said it was HT. In any case, Sean is there and beginning the rest of his life where he BELONGS!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Aida on December 24, 2009, 05:48:44 AM
Quote from: lisacallenwood;58688
NBC showed cruella and her husband leaving and SAID it was DAvid with Sean. On another thread they said it was HT.
 
In any case, Sean is there and beginning the rest of his life where he BELONGS!!

 
Thanks Lisa. They are not showing anything in Denver!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: nina on December 24, 2009, 05:49:24 AM
http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Noticias/0,,GIM61910-7823-GLOBO+NEWS+AO+VIVO,00.html

Live..news Globo (in portuguese..sorry!)

YEI!!!! Sean is going home!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 05:55:56 AM
What the H -E double hockey sticks! I am scanning the channels and I can't find a thing, then I see on CNN just a still picture of David and Sean with "Father's Victory" then, instead of relaying current events they have two intense psychologists trying to out pyscho-babble each other. To paraphrase:  "The needs of the child really matter. He is not an infant or small child. He is 10 or 9. His will should count. He should have trips back to Brazil to see the only family he's every known..".
 
He is not even out of Brazil since his abduction and they have him visiting. And the only family he's ever known? Don't burden yourself with the facts Doc.
 
I didn't stay up to see that. haha I want to see David and Sean. I know David's parents are getting a wonderful Christmas present. Not only do they get to see their grandson again. They will get to see their son's smile again.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Aida on December 24, 2009, 05:56:05 AM
Quote from: nina;58694
http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Noticias/0,,GIM61910-7823-GLOBO+NEWS+AO+VIVO,00.html
 
Live..news Globo (in portuguese..sorry!)
 
YEI!!!! Sean is going home!!!
 That is Ok. Thank you Nina
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 05:57:44 AM
Quote from: Aida;58691
Thanks Lisa. They are not showing anything in Denver!


It was on NBC, CH4  here in NYC. They showed outside the embassy and then cut away to do the weather....They are going to show it again shortly.  Point is...HE IS THERE!!!!!!!  YAY!!!!!    :cheer::cheer::cheer:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Aida on December 24, 2009, 05:58:32 AM
Quote from: abbysomething;58707
What the H -E double hockey sticks! I am scanning the channels and I can't find a thing, then I see on CNN just a still picture of David and Sean with "Father's Victory" then, instead of relaying current events they have two intense psychologists trying to out pyscho-babble each other. To paraphrase: "The needs of the child really matter. He is not an infant or small child. He is 10 or 9. His will should count. He should have trips back to Brazil to see the only family he's every known..".
 
He is not even out of Brazil since his abduction and they have him visiting. And the only family he's ever known? Don't burden yourself with the facts Doc.
 
I didn't stay up to see that. haha I want to see David and Sean. I know David's parents are getting a wonderful Christmas present. Not only do they get to see their grandson again. They will get to see their son's smile again.

 I know what you mean I live in Denver and nothing. But Robin Meade starts in 2 min live we will see.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 05:59:07 AM
I have a feeling once the today show begins (NBC - NY) there will be more 'live' shots.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 05:59:26 AM
Quote from: abbysomething;58666
REJOICING!!!:cheer:

Ahhh where can you find this?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 06:00:02 AM
Guen...Channel 4 in Monmouth County.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 06:00:09 AM
NBC right now, about go go to Rio to discuss
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 06:00:34 AM
Quote from: lisacallenwood;58718
Guen...Channel 4 in Monmouth County.


THANKS! Just switched over =)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 06:01:23 AM
Glen Zimmerman (chnl 4-NBC) is outside the Brazilian consulate in NYC reporting live. And they have live camera coverage down in Brazil.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 06:01:50 AM
Quote from: tartine;58687
http://cbn.globoradio.globo.com/home/HOME.htm
 
Granny did not get permission to accompany them on a chartered airplane! Yay!!!! No more parental allienation! :)

:yeahthat:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 06:04:14 AM
Was that Sean in the yellow shirt?  If it is shame again on the grandmother, he got mobbed.  She could have requested private entrance if she wanted
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 06:06:38 AM
Showing on NBC on NYC channel 4. Outside embassy saw Sean w JPLS mobbed by the press which NBC reported as " possibly David being reunited with his son". Of course it looks frightening being jostled by all the photographers. Surely this could have been prevented. The NBC reporter is standing outside the Brazilian Embassy in Midtown Manhattan.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: nina on December 24, 2009, 06:07:13 AM
Have you noticed that when S Tostes speaks about Cruella not being authorized to go in the same plane, she (well, I believe is her!) just speaks in the back kind of saying the same thing Tostes is saying.???

Crazy woman!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 06:07:46 AM
Quote from: Guenevere;58731
Was that Sean in the yellow shirt? If it is shame again on the grandmother, he got mobbed. She could have requested private entrance if she wanted

Apparently he has on a Brazilian soccer shirt. And the dark side isn't looking out for his best interest. They NEVER HAVE!! Just a parade of misery to be shown in Brazil to sway public opinion; poor them. :cloud:
 
But that will be the last time in Sean's life he'll be exposed to things due to his caregiver's selfishness. Once David has him; that's OVER!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 06:08:10 AM
Quote from: nina;58735
Have you noticed that when S Tostes speaks about Cruella not being authorized to go in the same plane, she (well, I believe is her!) just speaks in the back kind of saying the same thing Tostes is saying.???

Crazy woman!


what plane are they going on and when?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 06:09:13 AM
I just watched the New York's NBC and ABC News clips.
The Dark Slime has had their final opporunity for CHILD ABUSE.  They hand Sean, an American, over to to his father, David, an American, on their way to America, wearing his Brazilian soccer Jersey.  Could they not support this boy they supposedly love on his way to life with his father?????????  Just dress him in some plain clothes and drop him off at the door, not parade him through a mob scene.  I am fuming.
And not only did they do NOTHING to protect Sean from the mob of papparazzi, but they seemed to encourage it.  They are such pigs.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 06:09:52 AM
Quote from: pinkbassist;58737
what plane are they going on and when?

 
Rumor has it there is a private chartered jet. Not sure where that info came from but I'm praying its true.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 06:10:26 AM
So annoyed with CNN. Instead of reporting some real news let's talk about which senator has the longest commute and then spend literally less than 30 seconds on the reunion
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Aida on December 24, 2009, 06:11:50 AM
Can Not believed they did that!.....WAIT yes i can! Sean did not have to go to that!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SassyPrncess on December 24, 2009, 06:12:14 AM
Eccka, in the midwest we are getting NO coverage (yet). Obviously, the storm has something to do with it, but due to the time difference, we have nothing from the Today show, etc- yet. (Minneapolis, here)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Aida on December 24, 2009, 06:13:09 AM
Quote from: ChristineS;58739
I just watched the New York's NBC and ABC News clips.
The Dark Slime has had their final opporunity for CHILD ABUSE. They hand Sean, an American, over to to his father, David, an American, on their way to America, wearing his Brazilian soccer Jersey. Could they not support this boy they supposedly love on his way to life with his father????????? Just dress him in some plain clothes and drop him off at the door, not parade him through a mob scene. I am fuming.
And not only did they do NOTHING to protect Sean from the mob of papparazzi, but they seemed to encourage it. They are such pigs.

 
:yeahthat:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 06:13:43 AM
Quote from: ChristineS;58739
I just watched the New York's NBC and ABC News clips.
The Dark Slime has had their final opporunity for CHILD ABUSE.  They hand Sean, an American, over to to his father, David, an American, on their way to America, wearing his Brazilian soccer Jersey.  Could they not support this boy they supposedly love on his way to life with his father?????????  Just dress him in some plain clothes and drop him off at the door, not parade him through a mob scene.  I am fuming.
And not only did they do NOTHING to protect Sean from the mob of papparazzi, but they seemed to encourage it.  They are such pigs.

Just a great final show of their true character.  Thank God it is almost over.  I hope the press leaves them alone around here, which I imagine they will-
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 06:18:19 AM
Quote from: SassyPrncess;58746
Eccka, in the midwest we are getting NO coverage (yet). Obviously, the storm has something to do with it, but due to the time difference, we have nothing from the Today show, etc- yet. (Minneapolis, here)


I'm in Michigan. Just saw VERY brief reports on CNN, HLN and FOX NEWS. I'm giving up til 7am for Today. I'm just ecstatic that Sean is safe and back where he belongs
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: margie on December 24, 2009, 06:20:02 AM
Quote from: ChristineS;58739
I just watched the New York's NBC and ABC News clips.
The Dark Slime has had their final opporunity for CHILD ABUSE.  They hand Sean, an American, over to to his father, David, an American, on their way to America, wearing his Brazilian soccer Jersey.  Could they not support this boy they supposedly love on his way to life with his father?????????  Just dress him in some plain clothes and drop him off at the door, not parade him through a mob scene.  I am fuming.
And not only did they do NOTHING to protect Sean from the mob of papparazzi, but they seemed to encourage it.  They are such pigs.

I would prefer to use the word scum. As pigs are clean and friendly animals.
:) Just had to comment.

Margie
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Chuckles on December 24, 2009, 06:20:27 AM
So... he was wearing a soccer jersey.  Might be his favorite shirt, what's the complaint?

The mob scene on Globo (I assume that's what I was watching - didn't understand a word of the narrative) was appalling.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Kerry on December 24, 2009, 06:23:55 AM
There is NOTHING showing on any news channel down here in Florida
I can't find anything.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SassyPrncess on December 24, 2009, 06:23:56 AM
David is a brilliant father and I am guessing that there is a team in place waiting for this moment. A team of friends, family and professionals whom I will refer to as "Team Goldman", aka Angels. Once David and Sean return, Team Goldman will surely enact whatever the carefully laid out plan is to ensure as much privacy as possible, to ensure the two can communicate (language barriers?), that there are therapists, any deprogramming professionals, and loving people around that have only their best interests at heart. The transition will not be seamless, nor easy. I pray the emotional roller coaster ride David (and Sean) has been on comes slowly to a stop and he doesn't crash. He still needs strength, perhaps more now than ever.

Send those positive vibes and give thanks to everyone involved! There will be more speed bumps ahead.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 06:27:02 AM
NBC will be airing the story in just a bit again.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Kerry on December 24, 2009, 06:27:23 AM
Pictures Shown here.............


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/24/AR2009122400600.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamesJosephs on December 24, 2009, 06:27:56 AM
For those in the NYC area, News 4 New York is about to do another live report from Rio.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: sandy on December 24, 2009, 06:28:10 AM
Quote from: Kerry;58774
There is NOTHING showing on any news channel down here in Florida
I can't find anything.
you are right Iam still looking.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 06:28:35 AM
Quote from: Chuckles;58767
So... he was wearing a soccer jersey. Might be his favorite shirt, what's the complaint?
 
The mob scene on Globo (I assume that's what I was watching - didn't understand a word of the narrative) was appalling.

Are you kidding Chuck?  Pack the shirt in his luggage.   He can wear it back home in NJ.  They are obviosly making a statement to the WORLD that "Sean is a Brazilian" and "wants to stay being a Brazilian no matter where he is 'forced' to go".....
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SassyPrncess on December 24, 2009, 06:30:59 AM
According to the Washington Post, the shirt has the Brazilian flag and Olympic rings.

Egads.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 06:33:42 AM
Okay...updated video from  earlier. NBC had speculated it was David with Sean but it WAS HT delivering him, MOBBED, to the consulate. Sean was crying. What is WRONG with those people letting that happen.
But Sean is there, for sure. Hopefully David will be able to get out from a more secured exit; privately.
UPDATE: Families are still inside consulate. Word from Brazil that Toasted just left consulate. The 5 year battle is ending.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eleanor on December 24, 2009, 06:36:49 AM
It is better not to think too much about the Soccer Jersey. Sean like any kid that has been for so long in Brazil probably loves the team. We are in a World Cup year and he sure is excited and proud for the team. He is also culturally attached to the whole thing. It would be unwise to try to cut his ties with Brazilian soccer like that. I would ignore the whole thing about the jersey. At this time it is part of who he is.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: GTfan on December 24, 2009, 06:37:37 AM
Here is the link of Sean arriving with the Darkside.. Its crazy but so happy that David and Sean are now together. Wheels up!

http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Noticias/0,,GIM1181039-7823-AVO+ENTREGA+SEAN+GOLDMAN+AO+PAI,00.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: william2009 on December 24, 2009, 06:38:01 AM
http://noticias.r7.com/brasil/noticias/pai-biologico-de-sean-chega-ao-consulado-dos-eua-no-rio-de-janeiro-20091224.html  
here is some videos in portugues
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 06:39:32 AM
The Brazilian family had the resources to make this handover less dramatic. I am sure that they put Sean in this drama just to tell him that his dad had created this mess.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 06:40:33 AM
Live right now on NBC. They are on their way to the airport!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 06:41:02 AM
Live pics coming through with convoy of U.S. consulate vehicles coming out. Darkened windows and no contact with press or mob and escorted by 2 police vehicles. They're thinking on their way to the AIRPORT!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 06:42:23 AM
And there you have it from ABC News, Congressman Chris Smith states that the Brazilian family was offered a private back door entrance into the Consulate, but no..... they just had to go for the crush of reporters and beg for some more public sympathy.
 
Anyway..... David and Sean have LEFT the consulate, and are on their way home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (video just shown of the 'motorcade')
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 06:42:37 AM
It has been confirmed that they are in those cars and on their way to the airport.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: :: ultranol :: on December 24, 2009, 06:43:09 AM
Quote from: lisacallenwood;58828
Live pics coming through with convoy of U.S. consulate vehicles coming out. Darkened windows and no contact with press or mob and escorted by 2 police vehicles. They're thinking on their way to the AIRPORT!!!!

Damn... I'd like to see it live!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 06:44:29 AM
The Today show on NBC, at 7am EST, will have full coverage
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 06:44:42 AM
yahoo story with a lot of sad pictures. Sean looks terrified. That family should rot

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091224/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_us_custody_battle
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 06:44:59 AM
o Globo is following the vans.
http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Noticias/0,,GIM61910-7823-GLOBO+NEWS+AO+VIVO,00.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SassyPrncess on December 24, 2009, 06:45:29 AM
Not that they should, but ANY chance the Brazilian family had of visitation HOPEFULLY went out the window with that hideous display ... CHOOSING to parade him in front of the media? How is THAT in the "best interest of the child"? Once again, HIDEOUS.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sarita on December 24, 2009, 06:50:03 AM
Quote from: leoP;58833
It has been confirmed that they are in those cars and on their way to the airport.

link link!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sarita on December 24, 2009, 06:51:22 AM
Quote from: leoP;58842
o Globo is following the vans.
http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Noticias/0,,GIM61910-7823-GLOBO+NEWS+AO+VIVO,00.html

Thanks!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Atlantic965 on December 24, 2009, 06:52:00 AM
(http://oglobo.globo.com/fotos/2009/12/24/24_MHG_rio_sean123.jpg)
 
The Agony of Defeat
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 06:54:30 AM
What goes around comes around. They will never feel even an ounce of what David has endured all of these years.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 06:54:59 AM
Quote from: Atlantic965;58856
(http://oglobo.globo.com/fotos/2009/12/24/24_MHG_rio_sean123.jpg)
 
The Agony of Defeat
Those slimeballs wouldn't be in this position if they'd advised their daughter to do the right thing 5 years ago. OR even switched direction after her passiing. They've created their own misery and poor Sean has had to suffer due to their poor choices. This picture does NOT elicit sympathy from me; just an idea for a replacement for the 'bullseye' on my dartboard!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 07:02:09 AM
Quote from: lisacallenwood;58862
Those slimeballs wouldn't be in this position if they'd advised their daughter to do the right thing 5 years ago. OR even switched direction after her passiing. They've created their own misery and poor Sean has had to suffer due to their poor choices. This picture does NOT elicit sympathy from me; just an idea for a replacement for the 'bullseye' on my dartboard!!


This picture breaks my heart more than the others... there is Sean in the back, no craziness and then leading him into the mob. Awful!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 07:06:05 AM
Congressman Smith on phone on NBC -He confirms that they are on route to airport. They are leaving via plane ASAP.
 
Says that Sean and David started talking about basketball, etc. The nurse on hand said that Sean is fine. No emotional drama from Sean during turnover.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sarita on December 24, 2009, 07:06:39 AM
Congressman Smith says that Sean and David are smiling and talking basketball.
Very relaxed! Yay!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 07:07:27 AM
today show starting: David is apparently (rightly) pissed with the way the family brought Sean thru the mob scene.

Now on with Chris Smith. Confirming that David is upset, that the family was offered to bring Sean in another way but they opted to parade him down the street, Said Sean was sad at first but is now talking basketball and laughing with Davis (YAY!), and he did not cling to the abductors
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sarita on December 24, 2009, 07:07:33 AM
He's confirmed that that whole scene outside was totally unneccesary and contrived.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 07:08:01 AM
Sean handled situation very maturely unlike his Brazilian family.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 07:08:27 AM
Add this to the LONG list of things this woman needs to learn about putting a child first. Here he is behind her and she, instead of having her last moments with him, (not even beside him),  and saying "I'll see you soon", she is being held up like it's a funeral procession.
 
That is exactly the kind of break down that child doesn't need to be witness to. She is acting like he is going to the gallows, of course he will be upset! These stupid stupid people. Did she really think a grandma is more important that an immediate parent? Cry for a month lady and you wont come close to the tears you've caused.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 07:08:45 AM
Quote from: leoP;58890
Sean handled situation very maturely unlike his Brazilian family.


He is obviously his father's son!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chopchop on December 24, 2009, 07:09:07 AM
Quote from: Sarita;58883
Congressman Smith says that Sean and David are smiling and talking basketball.
Very relaxed! Yay!

Finally, some real father and son normalcy.  Love is stronger than all this BS drama.  Wheels up, wheels up...hooray!!!!:cheer:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 07:09:44 AM
Chris Smith said they were going through customs!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ENR on December 24, 2009, 07:09:55 AM
Sean looks just like David.  It's like mini me David :)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 07:10:02 AM
NBC is opening with the story.
And showing them parading Sean through the streets into the consulate. Those SLIMEBALLS!! Apparently they've threatened to do this for days according to the news. OMG...somebody hold me back. They used it for a media opportunity!! I hope they all rot in hell...just for this!!
I'm typing this from the report, so please bare with me:
Jeff Rossen reporting things live. Chris Smith on the phone live saying they are en route to the airport. They'll be leaving Brazil shortly "ASAP". Describes the scene as very cruel and orchestrated by dark side. They were offered the opportunity to bring him through more private but chose their selfish way. They went above and beyond in awful for doing that to him. Sean is FINE NOW. They'r'e highlighting the last of the abuse they've caused Sean by doing this. Chris Smith is traveling with them. Time frame to leave is ASAP.
Patricia Appy on phone live now discussing visitation with dark side. No visitation rights in the U.S. for them. Saying they will work with the dark side to arrange for access based on advise from psychologists. What you saw was a perfect microcosim of how they've handled Sean all along; making it all about them. Should NEVER have been this way to scare Sean with this 'theater' that's gone on.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: DB4 on December 24, 2009, 07:10:46 AM
I can't believe they did this to Sean?  Why on earth would the Brazilian family handle transition this way if they had a more private option?  That was absolutely terrible - they made him suffer!!! I'm so mad.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sarita on December 24, 2009, 07:11:00 AM
O Globo live video shows them out of the SUV and into the airport!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: nina on December 24, 2009, 07:11:29 AM
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

10:10 brazil time...they just arrived to the airport!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Grace on December 24, 2009, 07:11:34 AM
This was never about Sean, Today show is saying now. Sean is reacting well with David, on their way to the airport! Chris Smith said Tostes told him what?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 07:11:35 AM
What did Tostes yell at Chris Smith at the elevator?  My son was singing I missed it?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 07:11:51 AM
I love that now that David has Sean, David's attorneys are not being as nice when talking about the evil side. Really pulling no punches (basically saying what we've been saying)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 07:12:12 AM
They have reached the airport!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 07:12:34 AM
Quote from: ENR;58896
Sean looks just like David. It's like mini me David :)

I noticed the resemblence too. Clearly a father and son. :)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 07:13:32 AM
Finally it's on the front page of my yahoo. "Father gets Son Back"
Yes he did!! :D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 07:13:39 AM
Chris Smith said that Tostes screamed at him "with his eyes bulging" in the embassy - yikes!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: DB4 on December 24, 2009, 07:13:41 AM
Quote from: Guenevere;58904
What did Tostes yell at Chris Smith at the elevator? My son was singing I missed it?

I did too..does anyone know what was said to C. Smith?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 07:14:12 AM
Quote from: pinkbassist;58913
Chris Smith said that Tostes screamed at him "with his eyes bulging" in the embassy - yikes!


yes, he said "Youre a ________"

I missed what he called him, anyone know?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 07:14:46 AM
Quote from: Guenevere;58904
What did Tostes yell at Chris Smith at the elevator? My son was singing I missed it?

You're sons singing; cute!!
 
I didn't catch the exact phrase here either. Nobody singing but my heart :D.
 
Anybody?? What did Toasted yell at Chris Smith??
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 07:14:58 AM
Quote from: DB4;58914
I did too..does anyone know what was said to C. Smith?


It sounded like: "you are a mother.." I could be wrong on the last word?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 07:15:53 AM
Quote from: Guenevere;58904
What did Tostes yell at Chris Smith at the elevator? My son was singing I missed it?

 
"You are the abductor"
 
I still can't believe that's what Tostes said.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 07:16:04 AM
Quote from: pinkbassist;58918
It sounded like: "you are a mother.." I could be wrong on the last word?

ok....I THOUGHT it was 'mother'. But that doesn't make sense. There's a surprise from the mouth of that reptile.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 07:16:41 AM
Quote from: pinkbassist;58918
It sounded like: "you are a mother.." I could be wrong on the last word?


Thats what I thought I heard but with my son singing I figured I got it wrong....was he going for mother____ , or did he think calling him a mother was an insult?

If thats what he said I think i would start laughing
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 07:16:53 AM
Quote from: pinkbassist;58918
It sounded like: "you are a mother.." I could be wrong on the last word?


I THINK CHRIS LET OUT THE NEXT OBVIOUS WORD AFTER MOTHER.. IF I AM RIGHT ON THE WORD MOTHER.   SO PROFESSIONAL FOR AN ATTORNEY.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lisacallenwood on December 24, 2009, 07:17:33 AM
Quote from: leoP;58920
"You are the abductor"
 
I still can't believe that's what Tostes said.

Ahhh...but at least that makes more sense, although 'dark-side twisted'.
 
Wondering what he'll be doing career-wise the rest of his life? Maybe braiding hair on the beach?? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 07:17:50 AM
Quote from: leoP;58920
"You are the abductor"
 
I still can't believe that's what Tostes said.



Thanks leo, makes much more sense.

I cannot wait until they land.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: judavis on December 24, 2009, 07:18:07 AM
Quote from: leoP;58920
"You are the abductor"
 
I still can't believe that's what Tostes said.

I can believe it!!! To drag that poor confused child through a crowd of reporters?!  How disgusting!!!  Never once thinking about what is in Sean's best interest.  He's with his dad now!  Praise God!! The healing can begin!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 07:18:09 AM
Quote from: pinkbassist;58913
Chris Smith said that Tostes screamed at him "with his eyes bulging" in the embassy - yikes!

You mean they get bulgier?!:eek:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: DB4 on December 24, 2009, 07:18:37 AM
Quote from: leoP;58920
"You are the abductor"
 
I still can't believe that's what Tostes said.

Unbelievable!  Who cares about him?  At this point - I hope we never hear from Tostes again.  Moving on.....good bye Tostes!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 07:18:40 AM
Quote from: DB4;58900
I can't believe they did this to Sean?  Why on earth would the Brazilian family handle transition this way if they had a more private option?  That was absolutely terrible - they made him suffer!!! I'm so mad.


Because they are EVIL. So they can "prove" to the world that this is not what Sean wants and that he's scared and other BS. It's all about them. Ridiculous. I was quietly in favor of them being able (eventually) to have some contact with Sean. No matter how wrong and misguided their actions in the last 5 years have been they are his family and a link to his mother, etc. However, after this last stunt, NO WAY. I truly believe that there are some people that are just too toxic to be around
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 07:19:03 AM
Knowing that Sean and David are now together in relative peace and quiet, I am WAY OVER what those scumbags just did to Sean outside the Embassy.  If anyone can calm and comfort Sean and show him promise for his future, it is his father.
Welcome to the rest of your life, Sean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: cm on December 24, 2009, 07:22:14 AM
What a relief to hear that Sean is relaxed. For the first time in over five years, he can be with his father without fear. I am crying tears of joy for the Goldman family...for David and Sean.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 07:22:19 AM
Happy holidays everyone!! What an incredible way to end the year.
Looking forward to hearing that they have landed.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Aida on December 24, 2009, 07:24:09 AM
Quote from: leoP;58920
"You are the abductor"
 
I still can't believe that's what Tostes said.

 
This guy should be DENIED entry to the USA! Close the office and throw his crap in the dumpster!:cloud:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lexi on December 24, 2009, 07:26:48 AM
Not sure if these have already been posted in this thread:
 
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Parenting/sean-goldman-custody-battle-psychological-impacts/story?id=9411932
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8429659.stm
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: GTfan on December 24, 2009, 07:28:06 AM
SEAN and DAVID are together and on their way home... What a Christmas Miracle.. Just rewatched the Today show with captions.. Toastes said to Congressman Smith... "You are a mother &$^#$"
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Karensue on December 24, 2009, 07:31:56 AM
A joyous  day has arrived for David.  His long fight is finally over The wheels are up.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 07:37:48 AM
Quote from: GTfan;58966
SEAN and DAVID are together and on their way home... What a Christmas Miracle.. Just rewatched the Today show with captions.. Toastes said to Congressman Smith... "You are a mother &$^#$"


That's what I thought...... unfortunately.  Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: shaine on December 24, 2009, 07:43:12 AM
Good Morning America just had a psychologist on who said due to the broken relationship of Silvana & David, it is in Sean's best interest that she do not come with Sean.
Had they had a good relationship, then yes, she should have.
But given the circumstances, Sean will need time to heal. It will take him months, but given the fight his father has done, Sean WILL see this, and it will help Sean adjust.
They highlighted several cases where the child was abducted, and returned to the parent at various stages, all the children are doing fine. It took some time to adjust, but they are happy now.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: siajeannie on December 24, 2009, 07:44:24 AM
Quote from: shaine;59004
Good Morning America just had a psychologist on who said due to the broken relationship of Silvana & David, it is in Sean's best interest that she do not come with Sean.
Had they had a good relationship, then yes, she should have.
But given the circumstances, Sean will need time to heal. It will take him months, but given the fight his father has done, Sean WILL see this, and it will help Sean adjust.
They highlighted several cases where the child was abducted, and returned to the parent at various stages, all the children are doing fine. It took some time to adjust, but they are happy now.

Thanks for posting this! I guess I just missed it.. Here is a new article from The Examiner:

http://www.examiner.com/x-29163-NY-Parenting-Issues-Examiner~y2009m12d24-BREAKING-NEWS-David-and-Sean-Goldman-together-again
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SFBayAreaLibra on December 24, 2009, 07:49:53 AM
**Quote below...
 
"According to NBC News, Sean’s Brazilian stepfather was given the option to arrive at the front door of the consulate or to arrive through amore private way through the basement. The front door was chosen where Sean and his stepfather were met in front of the consulate by hoardes of photographers and news camera crews.

Sean cried as his stepfather and family lawyer tried to get him through the hoards of journalists in front of the consulate. Guards had to violently push back photographers and TV cameramen."

 

UNFORGIVABLE.... Stunning to me. This family is insane and most likely just lost ANY CHANCE for visitation with this child. I hope David keeps Sean as far away from them as possible...forever.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lexi on December 24, 2009, 07:51:56 AM
Two more (though still from AP):
 
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/12/24/brazil-us-custody-son.html
 
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091224/brazil_reunion_091224/20091224?hub=CanadaAMV2
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: mugsiejcu on December 24, 2009, 07:53:39 AM
Quote from: ChristineS;58937
Knowing that Sean and David are now together in relative peace and quiet, I am WAY OVER what those scumbags just did to Sean outside the Embassy.  If anyone can calm and comfort Sean and show him promise for his future, it is his father.
Welcome to the rest of your life, Sean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I agree with you, but I must say, I really hope that the majority of Brazilians and the media down there see this disgusting display for what it was - a contrived, pathetic way to make themselves look like they are the only ones that Sean wants to be with, but all they showed was that they have never had Sean's best interest as a concern... anyone who thought of his best interest would have avoided the parade and kept him SAFE by going through the private options that were offered to them, not leading him through the streets as if they were carrying a coffin. Now I understand what they meant for the past couple days when David said that he would be happy when they were "wheels up AND safe".
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lily on December 24, 2009, 08:02:00 AM
On Fox 5 (here in NJ) they said they will have an interview with David's parents coming up soon....
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 08:03:18 AM
I just got the tweet - WHEELS ARE UP!!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lily on December 24, 2009, 08:03:21 AM
Mr. and Mrs. Goldman on Fox now...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lily on December 24, 2009, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: leoP;59048
I just got the tweet - WHEELS ARE UP!!!!!

NO WAY!!!!!  HOORAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Atlantic965 on December 24, 2009, 08:12:41 AM
No doubt  David is breathing a sigh of utter relief. But he still has quite a job help Sean make is adjustment to life in NJ.  We all need to be praying for the Goldmans in the weeks and month ahead. I cannot believe JLPS and Co could not hand Sean Over in some place private but instead made a big scene in front of the Consulate.
 
 
 
 
 
Quote from: Lily;59052
NO WAY!!!!! HOORAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jrellos11 on December 24, 2009, 08:15:21 AM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#34584272

Today show video just loaded
Title: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: Claudia.Hope on December 24, 2009, 08:30:53 AM
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Rio/0,,MUL1425681-5606,00-SEAN+DEIXA+O+CONSULADO+AMERICANO+ACOMPANHADO+DO+PAI.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SFBayAreaLibra on December 24, 2009, 08:33:03 AM
Quote from: jrellos11;59088
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/#34584272
 
Today show video just loaded

Thank you! :D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 08:41:13 AM
Today Show:

 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032072)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Grace on December 24, 2009, 08:43:37 AM
Brazilians, if you like to watch Globo, be very careful: they lie and distort things. Don't believe everything they say. Remember how Globo made the population believe in Uri Gueller bending spoons with his mind?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jl2saint on December 24, 2009, 08:46:09 AM
Quote from: Grace;59147
Brazilians, if you like to watch Globo, be very careful: they lie and distort things. Don't believe everything they say. Remember how Globo made the population believe in Uri Gueller bending spoons with his mind?

 
"Wheels are up" Grace.....
 
It does not matter what they report anymore.....
 
Sean is now free from the abusive kidnappers who never had his best interest at heart..........
 
Dave will keep Sean safe and far away from this scum..............:D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: paulo on December 24, 2009, 08:48:12 AM
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6862/20091224114537.jpg)

Sean is in this plane.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Herb Wife on December 24, 2009, 08:48:29 AM
~ ok ...now lets get the rest of them home... over 900 people here on this site...if everyone called their Congress Reps TODAY, RIGHT NOW...while its such a "hot" topic YOU could bring more children HOME to their Left Behind Parents!~
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sarita on December 24, 2009, 08:50:00 AM
plane taxiing live 8:49

http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Noticias/0,,GIM61910-7823-GLOBO+NEWS+AO+VIVO,00.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: paulo on December 24, 2009, 08:52:27 AM
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8381/20091224115057.jpg)

And off they went!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chopchop on December 24, 2009, 08:55:18 AM
Quote from: paulo;59164
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8381/20091224115057.jpg)
 
And off they went!!

Paulo, thank you so much.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sarita on December 24, 2009, 08:55:48 AM
Woooooo!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 08:56:21 AM
From the State Dept. Briefing yesterday:

QUESTION: Does or did Sean Goldman have a U.S. passport? Did you have to issue him one? Have you issued him one?

MR. CROWLEY: We have issued him a passport – to his father. So he will be able to travel whenever the exchange of custody takes place.

QUESTION: Recently, you issued it?

MR. CROWLEY: It’s – in the last 24 hours.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tweinstein on December 24, 2009, 08:57:07 AM
Quote from: paulo;59156
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6862/20091224114537.jpg)

Sean is in this plane.
I wonder whose plane this is.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 08:58:27 AM
A beautiful plane for a beautiful reunion on their way home to a beautiful new life!
Happy tears all morning...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jlpoag on December 24, 2009, 08:58:29 AM
Quote from: paulo;59164
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8381/20091224115057.jpg)
 
And off they went!!

Wonderful!  great! perfect!  Fab! :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:
 
As someone else said the other day, we can now all be "bouncing tigger happy!"
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 08:59:01 AM
Quote from: tweinstein;59178
I wonder whose plane this is.
A charter plane. Paid by the embassy.
Title: Re: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: Claudia.Hope on December 24, 2009, 08:59:52 AM
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Rio/0,,MUL1425732-5606,00-SEAN+EMBARCA+COM+O+PAI+PARA+OS+EUA.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: nbianch on December 24, 2009, 09:00:52 AM
We can now celebrate the reunion !
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: André Felipe on December 24, 2009, 09:01:03 AM
On February, one of my first posts in this Forum, I said I was expecting Sean's return with his father in this Christmas year.
But that only happened, I believe, because of the BSH's efforts.
Congratulations to everyone.
Title: Re: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: Claudia.Hope on December 24, 2009, 09:02:22 AM
I am crying here...Everyone was waiting for this Happy End for a long time !!!
David & Sean, MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chopchop on December 24, 2009, 09:04:39 AM
Quote from: André Felipe;59185
On February, one of my first posts in this Forum, I said I was expecting Sean's return with his father in this Christmas year.
But that only happened, I believe, because of the BSH's efforts.
Congratulations to everyone.

André, today is a good day.  Thank you so much for your intelligent, thoughtful and considerate commentary.  You have been enormously helpful to BSH.
Title: Re: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: Claudia.Hope on December 24, 2009, 09:06:09 AM
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Rio/0,,MUL1425732-5606,00-SEAN+EMBARCA+COM+O+PAI+PARA+OS+EUA.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 09:06:11 AM
As they left the condomium...

Tostes:"...we asked for the Grandmother to be in the plane but the US government (sic) and the Brazilian government accepted the veto..." repeated 3 times

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamesJosephs on December 24, 2009, 09:08:32 AM
Can someone give a summary of what Tostes was saying.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jl2saint on December 24, 2009, 09:09:14 AM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;59200
As they left the condomium...
 
Tostes:"...we asked for the Grandmother to be in the plane but the US government (sic) and the Brazilian government accepted the veto..." repeated 3 times


GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Keep that XXXXX away from Sean................:mad2:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chicybaby on December 24, 2009, 09:09:41 AM
This is the best present any of us could get. Everyone's holidays is now A MILLION TIMES BETTER!! Who needs anything else? NOT ME!!! I had lost so much hope over the past few months but to think this is happening on Christmas Eve is the absolute best news!! I go back in forth crying and dancing, crying, dancing. All the best wishes to everyone!
:cheer::clapping::D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 09:10:28 AM
More circus:

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ocrts on December 24, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;59200
As they left the condomium...

Tostes:"...we asked for the Grandmother to be in the plane but the US government (sic) and the Brazilian government accepted the veto..." repeated 3 times

(http://www.youtube.com/v/zLkrisdNyj4&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6) (http://www.youtube.com/v/zLkrisdNyj4&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6)


I don't speak a word of Portuguese, but I can tell exactly what this slimeball is saying.  Unforgivable, inexcusable continuation of the child abuse. :burn:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: rachelle4 on December 24, 2009, 09:11:34 AM
Quote from: JamesJosephs;59204
Can someone give a summary of what Tostes was saying.
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah! At least thats what it sounds like to me.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tweinstein on December 24, 2009, 09:13:05 AM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;59181
A charter plane. Paid by the embassy.
Fox News just said that the plane was paid for by NBC.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: dsturnerjr on December 24, 2009, 09:17:34 AM
Quote from: tweinstein;59217
Fox News just said that the plane was paid for by NBC.

Wow...NBC comes through again...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 09:18:11 AM
Tostes:"...I asked for the Grandmother to be in the plane but the US government (sic) denied and the Brazilian government accepted..." repeat, repeat, repeat...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chutt123 on December 24, 2009, 09:23:09 AM
Quote from: dsturnerjr;59224
Wow...NBC comes through again...


I had a feeling they would. I am so glad that wheels are up. They are in the air two hours. I'm sure they are taking away!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bean22 on December 24, 2009, 09:24:58 AM
Quote from: paulo;59164
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8381/20091224115057.jpg)

And off they went!!

Worth a thousand words...  Simply amazing!!!!!!
Title: Re: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: Mom25 on December 24, 2009, 09:35:34 AM
Title: Re: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: :: ultranol :: on December 24, 2009, 09:43:05 AM
The reporter says that Tostes said that:
1) No one offered them to park in the Consulate garage;
2) The shirt that Sean is wearing was chosen by himself and he said that he doesn't take the shirt off, ever;
3) He was febrile last night, didn't sleep well, and said goodbye to Chiara promising to be back soon.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: sue on December 24, 2009, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;59225
Tostes:"...I asked for the Grandmother to be in the plane but the US government (sic) denied and the Brazilian government accepted..." repeat, repeat, repeat...
I don't beleive that, I think it's just one more lie.  And I can't believe they paraded Sean through that mob only for their benefit, oh my God!  It makes me sick.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Kerry on December 24, 2009, 09:44:53 AM
Brilliantly captured video!

Mom........could you be an angel and do a translation on the commentary for us as well?
I feel so out of it, not understanding Portuguese.


Kerry
Title: Re: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: pinkbassist on December 24, 2009, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Mom25;59246


WHEELS UP!  WHAT A GREAT VISUAL FOR THE GOLDMAN FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO SEE! THANKS TO THE INTERNET!:cheer:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 09:49:04 AM
Seeing Sean's stepfather holding on to him and parading him through that sea of people just made me angry.  It's merely one more sick ploy the dark side has done to hurt that child.  Thank God Sean is back where he belongs - with his loving Dad.
Title: Re: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: Karensue on December 24, 2009, 09:51:00 AM
Overwhelming joy seeing the WHEELS UP!!
Title: Re: On Video/Globo TV...Sean's delivery !!!
Post by: Mom25 on December 24, 2009, 09:53:35 AM
It was ALSO reported that the EMBASSY did offer help and that the LeS crew said a lady at the EMB was lying about this... NOT TRUE...

If it was true - they could have refused to get out of the car... until a word was sent for them to drive to the garage...

They wanted 'the little show' for the record. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: sue on December 24, 2009, 09:57:07 AM
Tostes called Congressman Smith a "mother"!  Oh boy, that's really something!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: sue on December 24, 2009, 09:58:29 AM
I really believe that if Chris Smith had not gotten involved this would still be going on....yay for Congressman Smith!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: liesl78 on December 24, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
Estadão photo
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59309
Estadão photo


Thanks for posting those...beautiful sight to see after such a long wait
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 24, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59309
Estadão photo

 
Lordy I am crying all over again. This is the most beautiful picture of the day!
 
And I just saw this....if it was posted already - my apologies.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/12/24/navarrette.brazil.goldman.custody/index.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamesJosephs on December 24, 2009, 10:03:17 AM
Thanks for that picture.  That could be the last photo ever taken of David Goldman in Brazil.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: cm on December 24, 2009, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59309
Estadão photo

That's the best pic I've seen in a while! Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Kerry on December 24, 2009, 10:05:52 AM
Now THAT picture speaks volumes.......
Many thanks for posting such an uplifting picture of father and son.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: AGratehouse on December 24, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
I think I read somewhere that David's mom and dad were being interviewed. If this is true, does someone have a link to that?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 10:08:09 AM
Amazing how a picture can say so much. I don't see Sean hysterical about leaving Brazil. He definitely was not forced on the plane. I don't know too many kids that would let anyone take them just anywhere without putting a fight. This is a sure sign that he feels extremely comfortable around David.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: leoP;59319
Amazing how a picture can say so much. I don't see Sean hysterical about leaving Brazil. He definitely was not forced on the plane. I don't know too many kids that would let anyone take them just anywhere without putting a fight. This is a sure sign that he feels extremely comfortable around David.

:yeahthat:It's a great sign.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: siajeannie on December 24, 2009, 10:10:05 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59309
Estadão photo

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

I absolutely love this picture!!! Isn't this just great? What a great father. What a great moment. Lovely!

:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: dimpledoll on December 24, 2009, 10:14:50 AM
That is one awesome picture!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: todez on December 24, 2009, 10:20:37 AM
I just read that SOS Clinton thanked Brazil for following the law.  Do we really need to thank them for something that they are obligated to do?  

It's great to see them getting on the plane together!  I can imagine the releif for BOTH of them!

Tostes continues to spew to the Brazilian media.  Something's never change.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: nkerry on December 24, 2009, 10:22:32 AM
I am so happy for David and Sean, I've been praying and concerned so much these last few days hoping beyond hope it would work this time.

David/Sean's story has been such a part of my daily thoughts for so long now, it (selfishly) it will be hard to "let them go," and not want to know how they are doing. I hope the love David and Sean had together as a little boy will flow through Sean now, will flood his memories and i am so sure that David will not do to him what Bruna's family did. David's grace will show they way it always should have been. Of course, I'm also sure David will not let Sean go back to Brazil but will let him know them more comfortably as long as they are good to Sean...

I know we will have little information, and we all have loved Sean and poured our passion into the hope for this day. While I will no longer have to check this site 50 times a day (whew)  I will pray now for the return of all the other children I have learned about are missing.

Sean's family.... we wish you all peace, the love of each other, and JOY!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jjsaunt on December 24, 2009, 10:25:14 AM
Today Show - Pacific version opened with David and Sean and the picture shown above.  Jeff Rosen on a satilite phone just updated what is happening now.
 
Sean is asleep and David is in the facing seat just watching him.  Jeff says that Sean has not been upset, but now that they are in the air he was tired that he refused chocolate.
 
Different things Jeff has seen this morning.  David & Sean comparing shoes sizes.  David worrying that Sean would be upset before Sean arrived at the Embassy, but once the initial rush was over, Sean has been quite cheerful.
 
I hope they post this west coast verion of Today.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: PadmeSkywalker on December 24, 2009, 10:26:09 AM
I've been watching this story for a while and I am so incredibly happy that David has his soon back.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jjsaunt on December 24, 2009, 10:26:36 AM
Oh, yeah.  "Today" also said that the plane had been hired to bring back all of the NBC employees that had been in Rio - apparently there was quite a lot of them.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: carina on December 24, 2009, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: ChristineS;58789
Are you kidding Chuck?  Pack the shirt in his luggage.   He can wear it back home in NJ.  They are obviosly making a statement to the WORLD that "Sean is a Brazilian" and "wants to stay being a Brazilian no matter where he is 'forced' to go".....


I agree 100%. :yeahthat:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tartine on December 24, 2009, 10:27:42 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59309
Estadão photo

This is such a wonderful photo!  Sean following his dad into the plane, no tantrums, no screaming :) how about that? I'm so happy for them!  What a wonderful Christmas!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 24, 2009, 10:28:19 AM
Quote from: jjsaunt;59341
Today Show - Pacific version opened with David and Sean and the picture shown above. Jeff Rosen on a satilite phone just updated what is happening now.
 
Sean is asleep and David is in the facing seat just watching him. Jeff says that Sean has not been upset, but now that they are in the air he was tired that he refused chocolate.
 
Different things Jeff has seen this morning. David & Sean comparing shoes sizes. David worrying that Sean would be upset before Sean arrived at the Embassy, but once the initial rush was over, Sean has been quite cheerful.
 
I hope they post this west coast verion of Today.

Is it even remotely possible for any of us to imagine what David is feeling right now?  He is watching is son sleep.  For the first time more than 5 years, he is watching him sleep.  How precious.  
 
More tissues - where are the tissues???
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: FC_Florida on December 24, 2009, 10:28:45 AM
Even away in the Caribbean -I'm on a cruise - the news spread around! I wish I could scan the ship's onboard newspaper that reported on the wonderful news! I'm so happy for David and Sean.
 
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to log in again on the Internet. But I would like to wish a wonderful holidays to the BSH.org team and members!!!!
 
Way to go, David. I hope the wheels are up!:)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: FC_Florida on December 24, 2009, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59309
Estadão photo

 
Wow! The wheels are UP!!!!!
 
Have a safe trip, David and Sean!!! :cheer:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 10:31:17 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59309
Estadão photo

My favorite picture of the day.  
My friend and her husband, native Brazilians, are here at our house now.  Peter is a pilot, and he tells me this plane is a Brazilian made Embra Air.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: AndrewComings on December 24, 2009, 10:35:20 AM
From here in Northeast Brazil we have been "pulling for" and praying for David and Sean for a long time.  I am proud of my adopted Brazil for finally adhering to the rule of law, proud of David who showed that there are American fathers who still take the role seriously, and, most of all, grateful to God for bringing about justice.

Our prayers continue for the healing process, and for the thousands of others who find themselves in this horrifying situation.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: todez on December 24, 2009, 10:38:01 AM
Sen Lautenberg was just on Fox saying his holding the exemptions for Brazil changed the ballgame.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Nicole's Dad on December 24, 2009, 10:43:50 AM
I have one word to describe this:
 
 
VICTORY!!!!!

Keep in mind peeps. We still have a lot of work to do. Let's not forget we still have over 60 other children that need this same thing to happen to them as well.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Mom25 on December 24, 2009, 10:46:38 AM
Quote from: gail;59304
I really believe that if Chris Smith had not gotten involved this would still be going on....yay for Congressman Smith!


I am soooooooooo thankful and proud of him! He is an amazing guy... amazing!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Kerry on December 24, 2009, 10:52:01 AM
Quote from: Nicole's Dad;59376
I have one word to describe this:
 
 
VICTORY!!!!!
 
Keep in mind peeps. We still have a lot of work to do. Let's not forget we still have over 60 other children that need this same thing to happen to them as well.

And we won't forget Marty.
See my poem on the "Wheels Are Up Thread"..........all the LBP are written about.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Jackie in Upstate NY on December 24, 2009, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: FC_Florida;59349
Even away in the Caribbean -I'm on a cruise - the news spread around! I wish I could scan the ship's onboard newspaper that reported on the wonderful news! I'm so happy for David and Sean.
 
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to log in again on the Internet. But I would like to wish a wonderful holidays to the BSH.org team and members!!!!
 
Way to go, David. I hope the wheels are up!:)
LOVE YOU, enjoy your vacation ! and have a wonderful Holiday - this is going to be one of my favorites !
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: grela on December 24, 2009, 10:59:37 AM
Wishing David and Sean a very Merry Christmas!!!  They deserve it :D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Ginstar on December 24, 2009, 10:59:38 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59309
Estadão photo

What I love about this picture is that Sean is following his Father , looking up to him. Pure Joy! A sure sign that ths boy is HAPPY about going home!
Hallalujah !!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: liesl78 on December 24, 2009, 11:01:36 AM
Ok, again, bigger version, just for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Ginstar on December 24, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59403
Ok, again, bigger version, just for the sake of it.

Love it!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Genenut on December 24, 2009, 11:05:30 AM
Has anyone sent NBC a thank you email for chartering the plane? They didnt have to do this and still would have gotten thier story. But thanks to them sean will be home for Christmas before the storm hits something that might not have happened using regular commercial flights.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: grela on December 24, 2009, 11:07:22 AM
I like how Sean his following his dad without putting up a fight.  Reminds me of a poem:
 
"Please walk slower, Daddy,
said a child so small,
I'm walking in your footsteps,
and I don't want to fall!"
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Pepe on December 24, 2009, 11:21:52 AM
"Sen Lautenberg was just on Fox saying his holding the exemptions for Brazil changed the ballgame."
 
I don´t believe in that. Brazilian government (the "Brazilian Executive Power"), supported David since the beginning. And I´m sure minister Gilmar Mendes was not influenced by the exemptions. Despite beeing a very competent judge, he does not particularly like Marco Aurelio. So all this was also an opportunity for him, as a judge, to disqualify (one more time) a ruling issued by Marco Aurelio.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: flytrapgirl on December 24, 2009, 11:24:23 AM
I am crying right now!!!!!!  So Excited!!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ProudDaddy on December 24, 2009, 11:26:27 AM
Quote from: Pepe;59424
"Sen Lautenberg was just on Fox saying his holding the exemptions for Brazil changed the ballgame."
 
I don´t believe in that. Brazilian government (the "Brazilian Executive Power"), supported David since the beginning. And I´m sure minister Gilmar Mendes was not influenced by the exemptions. Despite beeing a very competent judge, he does not particularly like Marco Aurelio. So all this was also an opportunity for him, as a judge, to disqualify (one more time) a ruling issued by Marco Aurelio.
I fully agree. There are many heroes and "heroes" in this story. A great number of the real ones are in the shadows, in the US and Brazilian government.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Genenut on December 24, 2009, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Pepe;59424
"Sen Lautenberg was just on Fox saying his holding the exemptions for Brazil changed the ballgame."
 
I don´t believe in that. Brazilian government (the "Brazilian Executive Power"), supported David since the beginning. And I´m sure minister Gilmar Mendes was not influenced by the exemptions. Despite beeing a very competent judge, he does not particularly like Marco Aurelio. So all this was also an opportunity for him, as a judge, to disqualify (one more time) a ruling issued by Marco Aurelio.


No but I think it gave him the power to call the family in and tell them to give up and save face. That 3pm meeting most likely had to do with that. It kept Lulu from responding to Granny's letter. And in some small way I'm sure other countries involved in hague disputes with the US have taken note that eventually we will wield our economic power to ensure justice in these cases. Its no coincidence that the case moved VERY quickly after the hold was put in place..
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Colie on December 24, 2009, 11:29:52 AM
Is there any word on David and Sean's arrival to the US?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sashia on December 24, 2009, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: todez;59366
Sen Lautenberg was just on Fox saying his holding the exemptions for Brazil changed the ballgame.
!
And he is right, which shows as soon as the holiday is over, we have to get back to pressing these bills.....anyone know what the status is on merging the bills? I'm sure Congressman Smith needs a little respite and some time with his family before embarking again on the political fight. Bless his heart, his family should be very proud of him...very!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Genenut on December 24, 2009, 11:33:59 AM
Quote from: Colie;59435
Is there any word on David and Sean's arrival to the US?

Last word I heard was the flight will take 10.5 hours so not until 4-5 pm EST at the earliest...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Kerry on December 24, 2009, 11:35:02 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59403
Ok, again, bigger version, just for the sake of it.

Thanks ever so.........
Any other "for the sake of it" pics will be most welcomed.

I tried to crop just David and Sean to see if I could see facial expressions, but it did not work.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Colie on December 24, 2009, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: Genenut;59440
Last word I heard was the flight will take 10.5 hours so not until 4-5 pm EST at the earliest...

Wow!  I had no idea it was such a long flight!  Thanks for the info.  Happy Holidays!  I still can hardly believe this is over.  This is the best Christmas gift ever!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: liesl78 on December 24, 2009, 11:36:20 AM
Sorry, no, those were the best photos I could find
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 24, 2009, 11:37:52 AM
I asked this on another thread, but I am hoping someone can clarify....
 
Apy said this morning on CBS that the custody agreement was in place in NJ from years ago. Did that agreement give David full custody and once they are back in NJ is it carved in stone?
 
She was also very quick to say the family stopped the Brazilian appeals, but that doesn't mean they won't come here and try to raise a stink.
 
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: cabindweller on December 24, 2009, 11:40:03 AM
. . . the Wheels ARE up!  Our spirits are lifted. There are so many people that have made this possible.  Our family has been following this for months and know that the Goldman's have incredible support at many levels. This is an amazing human interest story with a stunning outcome.  Godspeed.
Since the jet is chartered for NBC to return some employees home, and they invited the Goldman party to join them.  Is that giving NBC some exclusivity ?  I'm hoping there will not be a crush of media as there was in Brazil. For the Goldman's sake having a single media contact would allow more privacy.  Even in the long term.
Silly me! Given the exemplary actions including protection of Sean that David has displayed I'm certain they are all over that.  
Our family will visit the website for the latest news.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: liesl78 on December 24, 2009, 11:40:10 AM
As far as I know, yes, David was awarded full custody and it remains that way since he´s the sole surviving parent.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Pepe on December 24, 2009, 11:42:11 AM
Quote from: Colie;59435
Is there any word on David and Sean's arrival to the US?

I heard they are going to land on Orlando and spend the next few days at Disney.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ProudDaddy on December 24, 2009, 11:42:42 AM
Quote from: Genenut;59430
No but I think it gave him the power to call the family in and tell them to give up and save face. That 3pm meeting most likely had to do with that. It kept Lulu from responding to Granny's letter. And in some small way I'm sure other countries involved in hague disputes with the US have taken note that eventually we will wield our economic power to ensure justice in these cases. Its no coincidence that the case moved VERY quickly after the hold was put in place..
Well, everybody here has his/her own personal  "conspiracy theory". I simply don't believe that the threat of suspending the  GSP for Brazil had any impact other than sending a political message down to  here. The amount is quite small and wouldn't make a scratch in the Brazilian  economy - in fact Brazil spends vaster sums giving financial help to other  countries like Paraguay, Ecuador or Bolivia.
 
 As for the letter to Lulla, what could he have said  to he besides "I am so sorry for you"? He said publicly that the final decision  was on the hands of the Brazilian Judiciary and he would uphold it. Well, the  decision was in David's favor.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Evan1 on December 24, 2009, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: Genenut;59440
Last word I heard was the flight will take 10.5 hours so not until 4-5 pm EST at the earliest...

I believe that they will have to stop somewhere along the way to refuel.  Small private jets don't have the fuel capacity of the commercial jets

P.S. My wife and I have followed David and Sean's story since the first dateline special, I have been in lurking in the shadows for some time.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: liesl78;59455
As far as I know, yes, David was awarded full custody and it remains that way since he´s the sole surviving parent.

That is correct, he has full custody, and I heard his attorney speaking this morning and she said as of now no visitation is in the works, that it will be determinded by a mental health professional and David...so he has full control now and there is no point to appeal in the US, its useless
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: flytrapgirl on December 24, 2009, 11:45:14 AM
I was actually feeling sorry for the brazilian family for one minute and now after seeing the spectical they made....done...game over!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Pepe on December 24, 2009, 11:47:59 AM
Quote from: Evan1;59463
I believe that they will have to stop somewhere along the way to refuel. Small private jets don't have the fuel capacity of the commercial jets

No ...this is an Embraer jet able to flight nonstop from Brazil to the US and Europe as well.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 11:48:08 AM
Quote from: flytrapgirl;59466
I was actually feeling sorry for the brazilian family for one minute and now after seeing the spectical they made....done...game over!!!!

Yeah, dragging him through the streets to make point?  Thats like someone kicking a puppy to make a point they cant keep him....which further endorses the fact that theyre unfit. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
Quote from: Genenut;59409
Has anyone sent NBC a thank you email for chartering the plane? They didnt have to do this and still would have gotten thier story. But thanks to them sean will be home for Christmas before the storm hits something that might not have happened using regular commercial flights.

 
I dont think we're getting a storm, thank God, we already have two feet of snow on the ground
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Genenut on December 24, 2009, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: Guenevere;59474
I dont think we're getting a storm, thank God, we already have two feet of snow on the ground

There is a big storm in the midwest right now and its due to come east hitting new england on Saturday so it could play havoc with holiday travel.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 24, 2009, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Guenevere;59464
That is correct, he has full custody, and I heard his attorney speaking this morning and she said as of now no visitation is in the works, that it will be determinded by a mental health professional and David...so he has full control now and there is no point to appeal in the US, its useless

Sweet and that makes me feel so much better.  He was watching him sleep...how precious is that?  David, just wait until he is 13.  Puberty is a bear!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 11:57:30 AM
Quote from: Genenut;59476
There is a big storm in the midwest right now and its due to come east hitting new england on Saturday so it could play havoc with holiday travel.

Yes but they will fortunately land before that....safe travels!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Evan1 on December 24, 2009, 12:01:54 PM
Quote from: Pepe;59469
No ...this is an Embraer jet able to flight nonstop from Brazil to the US and Europe as well.

No, it is actually a Gulfstream IV with a range of 4220 mi/6790 km, thus they will probably have to stop for gas before they get to NJ.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: luvthelake on December 24, 2009, 12:11:32 PM
The picture of Sean walking  up to the plane on his own followig his Father is priceless. The other picture of grandma crying and Sean in the background shows me she does not care about whats best for him or she would had been back there with him. He looked fine. I have always thought but never said I bet Sean is glad to be away from them. He had to put up a front since he did not know when he was going to get rescued, but now I bet he is happy as he!! to be away from those wackos. What boy would not want to be with his cool, hip, caring, young Father than with his grandma. Sean will be fine and happy.
Merry Christmas BSH. Look foward to our next project.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamieCT on December 24, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Beautiful!!!(http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx69/jamie4086/091224-goldman-vmed-7awidec-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: luvthelake;59503
The picture of Sean walking up to the plane on his own followig his Father is priceless. The other picture of grandma crying and Sean in the background shows me she does not care about whats best for him or she would had been back there with him. He looked fine. I have always thought but never said I bet Sean is glad to be away from them. He had to put up a front since he did not know when he was going to get rescued, but now I bet he is happy as he!! to be away from those wackos. What boy would not want to be with his cool, hip, caring, young Father than with his grandma. Sean will be fine and happy.
Merry Christmas BSH. Look foward to our next project.

 
I cannot find the Grandma crying, do you have alink?
The pic of Sean and David boarding the plane is absolutely priceless
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: noah3698 on December 24, 2009, 12:18:21 PM
Front page of Oglobo....
 
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/12/24/menino-sean-goldman-embarca-com-pai-para-os-estados-unidos-915352073.asp
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Karistx on December 24, 2009, 12:21:22 PM
Quote from: noah3698;59511
Front page of Oglobo....
 
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/12/24/menino-sean-goldman-embarca-com-pai-para-os-estados-unidos-915352073.asp

 
thanks for only pasting the link and not placing the picture of her on here....sorry but her face is not worth posting on SEANS webpage :)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Guenevere on December 24, 2009, 12:25:33 PM
It's amazing how if people just did the right thing from the beginning, how everyone could have won and played a part in Seans life. Awful woman Silvana....my mother would never allow me to do that should my husband and I split.  Every decent human being knows how important it is to have both parents in a childs life- especially when both are fit- though Bruna turned out to be unfit while David kept his composure throughout such a horrific ordeal.  Happy he can continue to be the wonderful father he was when Sean was with him, and while Sean was without him, from here on out.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: roger on December 24, 2009, 12:25:49 PM
Quote from: JamieCT;59506
Beautiful!!!(http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx69/jamie4086/091224-goldman-vmed-7awidec-1.jpg)

I am breathtaken by this picture, which summarizes what first brought us all here.
 
I do hope and actually believe that this outcome will spearhead compliance with the Hague Convention and either avoid or abbreviate the pain of all Left Behind Parents throughout the world.
 
Even though this is still about Sean and David, this will be a strong foundation for all Left Behind Parents.
 
At first, all my colleagues who are attorneys in Brazil just wanted to help you appreciate the complexities and inner workings of the legal system of this country.
 
Eventually, we ended up being emotionally attached to this cause and this issue that is also "left-behind" issue within the field of international law.
 
It is up to the BHS Foundation to continue to raise awareness for the nightmare that LBP's face everyday.
 
It worked for Sean and David and will continue to work for all other ones.
 
A very Merry Christmas to all of you, an excellent 2010, and God Bless Brazil and America.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ElectricSpoon on December 24, 2009, 12:27:42 PM
Text from a letter that David Goldman wrote and was read to media, dated Dec. 24.
                 ___
                 Please accept my most sincere and humblest gratitude for getting the truth to Brazilian and American citizens alike and for your help to make our reunion possible.
                 I am grateful for the so many truly amazing and wonderful people who have put forth an extraordinary and tremendous effort to reunite our family with our beautiful Sean.
                 Please know that my love and the rest of Sean's family's love for him knows no boundaries and we will go to the ends of the Earth to protect him and shower him with every ounce of love that we have.
                 It is now time for our new beginning, the rebirth of our family at such a special time of the year. I hope the momentum keeps growing and the attention does not fade because there are more fathers and mothers and children to reunites.
                 God bless you all,
                 David
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: mgs2510 on December 24, 2009, 12:29:21 PM
Is it true that Sean and David are spending Christmas in Orlando, FL? I just watched this on Globo.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamesJosephs on December 24, 2009, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: Pepe;59424
"Sen Lautenberg was just on Fox saying his holding the exemptions for Brazil changed the ballgame."
 
I don´t believe in that. Brazilian government (the "Brazilian Executive Power"), supported David since the beginning. And I´m sure minister Gilmar Mendes was not influenced by the exemptions. Despite beeing a very competent judge, he does not particularly like Marco Aurelio. So all this was also an opportunity for him, as a judge, to disqualify (one more time) a ruling issued by Marco Aurelio.

 
He is correct in certain respects.  However, because his hold affected over 100+ countries with GSP status, they were "temporary sanctions' almost by definition.
 
That is why we cannot let up on passing 3240, 3487 and 2702 in one form or another to give the American governement more authority to act on behalf of LBPs dealing with non-compliant Hague countries, and countries that are not even members of the Hague.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamesJosephs on December 24, 2009, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: JamieCT;59506
Beautiful!!!(http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx69/jamie4086/091224-goldman-vmed-7awidec-1.jpg)

That is my screensaver now!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 12:37:50 PM
roger, thank you so much for all you have done. I already had a friend from Brazil when this began but in the last months that I have watched this case, I have become acquainted with just how much heart  Brazil's citizens have and I believe the support of Brazilians was helfpul in this happy outcome.
It is my sincere wish that the Goldman case has had such an influence that other parents of abducted children will be able to benefit from it and get the justice they seek, with less red tape. Not just from Brazil but from the US and anywhere children are being harbored.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: abbysomething on December 24, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: ChristineS;59352
My favorite picture of the day.
My friend and her husband, native Brazilians, are here at our house now. Peter is a pilot, and he tells me this plane is a Brazilian made Embra Air.

It makes my day to see them flying in such luxury, even though David would be happy on a cargo plane at this point, that is one beautiful plane. You know they are not getting a spork with their meal on that thing. :D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jjsaunt on December 24, 2009, 12:42:23 PM
From OGlobo - Google Translation
 
Boy Sean Goldman embarks with his father to the United States
 
Posted on 24/12/2009 at 14h15m
Natanael Damasceno and Claudio Motta - The Globe; GloboNews TV
 
 

 RIO - The boy Sean Goldman, age 9, and father, the American David Goldman, boarded at around 11:45 on Thursday on a chartered flight to the United States.  Early in the morning, the Brazilian family, which fought for custody of the child, took him to the U.S. Consulate, in downtown Rio, where he was delivered to the biological father, for determination of justice. Escorted by military police (MP), father and son left the scene by car without speaking to the press, and went to the airport. (See photos of the arrival of Sean to the consulate)

David Goldman, father of Sean, talk to 'rebirth' in letter

The lawyer Sergio Tostes, who represents the Brazilian family, said Sean took leave of his sister, Chiara, saying he would return soon.  The will of the boy, however, will depend on an agreement between the relatives in Brazil and the American lawyers.
 
Accompanied by the Brazilian family, Sean has come to the consulate with a dress shirt of Brazil, at about 8:30 am, half an hour before the deadline stipulated by the courts to surrender the child.  Appalled by the harassment of the press, the boy was all the time embraced the stepfather, the lawyer John Paulo Lins e Silva. The family arrived in three cars, parked about a hundred yards away.  They followed the walk to the consulate. There was uproar at the site.

Defense lawyers said the consulate did not contact with the family so that the car was parked inside the building, thus avoiding the harassment of the press. (Read more: American Press celebrates return of Sean)

Find the location, the maternal grandmother of Sean, Silvana Bianchi, said the U.S. government vetoed his request to accompany her grandson on the way back to America where he will live with their biological father.  (Read more: Hillary Clinton says she is excited about Sean's return to the U.S.)

- The government vetoed vetoed the government - said the grandmother.

Quite shaken, Silvana wanted, ironically, a "happy Christmas" to the President of the Supreme Court (STF), Gilmar Mendes, who ordered the delivery boy to the U.S. authorities. The day before, the president of the Federal Court of Region 2 (TRF2), federal judge Paulo Exprito Santo, has determined that the decision would be enforced until 9am on Thursday.

David Goldman arrived at the consulate at about 7:30 am. Escorted by two police patrol, the U.S. entered the garage without speaking to the press.

The fight for Sean won on a more dramatic last year, when Bruna, mother of the boy, died.  Since then, the stepfather and the boy's father fight in court. There are eight days, the 5th Specialized Panel of TRF2 had dismissed an appeal lodged by civil Brazilian family and determined to deliver the child to the father, David, in 48 hours.

The order was suspended the next day, the Minister Marco Aurélio Mello, the Supreme Court, by court order.  On Tuesday, the case has new twist when Gilmar Mendes determined to restore the decision of TRF2.

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jjsaunt on December 24, 2009, 12:43:52 PM
Quote from: mgs2510;59526
Is it true that Sean and David are spending Christmas in Orlando, FL? I just watched this on Globo.

I would think that the NBC plane would be heading back to New York.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Herb Wife on December 24, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
~ please visit new thread to see how you can help bring back all the children..one phone call from everyone here will make a big difference for LBP's ~...God Bless http://bringseanhome.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2437 (http://bringseanhome.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2437)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: vivienne on December 24, 2009, 01:04:17 PM
News report that David and Sean will be staying in Orlando:

http://www.wesh.com/news/22054043/detail.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lindy_b on December 24, 2009, 01:06:30 PM
This does not look like a boy who is scared to go with his father.  What an incredible moment captured on film.  It's so hard to believe the is over for David and Sean, but I'm so, so happy!!!  I hope that other families will soon be reunited with their kids.  What a wonderful holiday blessing!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: vivienne on December 24, 2009, 01:08:36 PM
A relieved grandfather hears Sean Goldman's voice: "Hi, Pop Pop"

Barry Goldman got his Christmas present this morning when he heard his grandson Sean Goldman simply say into the phone, "Hi, Pop Pop."

Those words were all he wanted to hear.

"It was great. It was wonderful to hear his voice," Barry Goldman said. "I'm so excited. I'm going to get to hug him, kiss him, and have fun with my grandson."

http://www.app.com/article/20091224/NEWS/91224037/1007
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jjsaunt on December 24, 2009, 01:10:23 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20333013,00.html
 
People magazine.  I hope that they get their fact straight before this goes to print.
 
They have "Goldman had only seen his son twice" statement I have seen so many times today.  David saw Sean in February and June - but he saw him more than once during those visits.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: vivienne on December 24, 2009, 01:16:26 PM
A story about NBC paying for David and Sean's flight - the author seems to have a problem with it:

http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m12d24-NBC-paid-for-flight-from-Brazil-for-David-Goldman-and-son-Sean (http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d24-NBC-paid-for-flight-from-Brazil-for-David-Goldman-and-son-Sean)

So what! Good for NBC for helping David and Sean go home!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pam.in.ny on December 24, 2009, 01:21:41 PM
Jeff Rossen will have an interview with David tonight on NBC Nightly News.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 01:22:56 PM
The picture of father and son boarding the plane will stay with me forever.  To see David finally with his son by his side, never to be taken again, just a miracle.
 
It is what we have all prayer for, worked for, and wished for.  To see Sean simply follow his father's footsteps, speaks volumes.  
 
The sheer relief and excitement this young boy must be feeling, to know he gets to spend the rest of his life with his wonderful father, must be the greatest day of his young life.  I read in another post and whole-heartedly believe, Sean must have longed to be with his father; being raised by a grandmother who is clearly not a warm or nice person, must have been frightening.  As much of an adjustment Sean has to make, I really think his dream has come true, just like David's.
 
Great clip on MSNBC.  Jeff Rossen on the plane with David and Sean.  Sounds like this reunion is perfect.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jlpoag on December 24, 2009, 01:28:28 PM
Quote from: lovellboys;59348
Is it even remotely possible for any of us to imagine what David is feeling right now? He is watching is son sleep. For the first time more than 5 years, he is watching him sleep. How precious.
 
More tissues - where are the tissues???

The most wonderful moments of my life have been watching my beautiful 6 year old daughter as she sleeps.  What a special moment for David and one I'm sure he'll never forget.  I am so truly happy for the Goldman family and wish them a lifetime of health, happiness, and especially for Sean, a lifetime of unconditional love and laughter with his daddy.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamesJosephs on December 24, 2009, 01:39:53 PM
Quote from: vivienne;59603
A story about NBC paying for David and Sean's flight - the author seems to have a problem with it:
 
http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m12d24-NBC-paid-for-flight-from-Brazil-for-David-Goldman-and-son-Sean (http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d24-NBC-paid-for-flight-from-Brazil-for-David-Goldman-and-son-Sean)
 
So what! Good for NBC for helping David and Sean go home!

I wonder if this D-bag had a problem w/ al gore and WJC flying Laura Ling home from n korea at the behest of oprah inc.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Priss on December 24, 2009, 01:42:34 PM
I'm sure that David will be watching Sean with joy and amazement that his boy, his son is finally home.  I'm also sure that there will be many nights that David will wake up and go and check on Sean to make sure that this is not a dream and that his boy, his son is safe in his bed, in his home with him, his dad.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 01:47:19 PM
I just read a short news article that says that David and Sean will not be going to NJ today. Did anyone else see that? It would be incredible if he took him to the happiest place on earth to rebond (Disney World)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: mfer on December 24, 2009, 01:47:27 PM
Quote from: JamesJosephs;59635
I wonder if this D-bag had a problem w/ al gore and WJC flying Laura Ling home from n korea at the behest o

f oprah inc.
yeah this is like that lame sunni last nite on cnn.  someone bitter & looking to get their 15. get lost loser!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: kim in socal on December 24, 2009, 01:53:24 PM
Quote from: vivienne;59603
A story about NBC paying for David and Sean's flight - the author seems to have a problem with it:
 
http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m12d24-NBC-paid-for-flight-from-Brazil-for-David-Goldman-and-son-Sean (http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d24-NBC-paid-for-flight-from-Brazil-for-David-Goldman-and-son-Sean)
 
So what! Good for NBC for helping David and Sean go home!

 
Nice comments at the bottom...This reporter just sounds jealous...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: heatheram29 on December 24, 2009, 01:56:19 PM
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE!!
 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/12/24/navarrette.brazil.goldman.custody/index.html
 
My choice for 'Father of the Year'

By Ruben Navarrette Jr., Special to CNN
December 24, 2009 12:13 p.m. EST

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/OPINION/12/24/navarrette.brazil.goldman.custody/tzleft.ruben.navarrette.sdut.jpg)


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Editor's note: Ruben Navarrette Jr. is a member of the San Diego Union-Tribune editorial board, a nationally syndicated columnist, and a regular contributor to CNN.COM. Read his column here (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/columnists/ruben-navarrette/).
San Diego, California (CNN) -- For Father of the Year, my nomination goes to David Goldman. Hands down. In fact, for his persistence in tilting at windmills and challenging a foreign government to regain custody of his son and bring him home, Goldman should be named Father of the Last Five Years.
That's how long Goldman has been fighting the legal system of Brazil to secure the return of his son. Sean Goldman was just 4 years old when his Brazilian-born mother, Bruna Bianchi, took him from the family home in New Jersey to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, in 2004 for what was supposed to be a two-week vacation, but turned into a long and heart-wrenching ordeal.
Bianchi never returned, but instead remarried and retained custody of Sean in Brazil. She died last year in childbirth, and, since then, David Goldman has been battling her family, the Bianchis.
In most countries around the world, Goldman's argument -- that, as the sole surviving parent, he should be granted custody of the boy -- would probably have carried the day. But, as Goldman soon learned, Brazil is a whole different ballgame. I suspect that the Bianchis knew just enough influential lawyers and judges to spitefully keep this case tied up in the courts for five years.
This week, there was a dramatic development that resulted in the now 9-year-old boy being reunited with his father. The chief justice of the Brazilian Supreme Court, Gilmar Mendes, ruled in favor of Goldman. In doing so, Mendes lifted a stay of another pro-Goldman lower court ruling that was last week issued by a lone Supreme Court justice. Goldman (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/David_Goldman), who has taken countless trips to Brazil in the last few years, had been in Rio de Janeiro for the past week. Waiting. Always waiting.
Meanwhile, the Brazilian attorney general sided with Goldman. Luis Inacio Adams was worried that, if Brazil starts cherry-picking which multinational treaties and international obligations it's going to follow, other countries could reciprocate against Brazilian citizens making similar claims. Adams was also concerned that, if the boy wasn't returned to his father, Brazil (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Brazil) could have faced devastating economic sanctions from the United States.
I'm sure I speak for millions of American parents, who have watched this case with bated breath and heavy hearts, when I say: You had better believe it, pal.
U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-New Jersey, recently placed a hold on an export tariff bill that would have provided a benefit of $2.75 billion to Brazil. Lautenberg was trying to exert additional pressure on Brazilian authorities to follow their own laws, obey their own court rulings and do the right thing.
This Brazilian telenovela is ridiculous. I tuned in several months ago, and I've been shaking my head incredulously ever since. At the same time, I've been inspired by David Goldman -- and his lonely battle to reunite with his son.
As the father of three small children, there's nothing I wouldn't have done to achieve the same outcome if I were in his shoes. I can say that. And I mean it. But I realize that I'm speaking in the hypothetical.
David Goldman has lived out this nightmare in real time. He's been courageous, dignified and persistent. He didn't quit. Nor should he have, since it's hard to think of a more righteous cause.
My dad likes that old saying about how any man can be a father but not every man can be a dad. He's right, of course. In this country, there are millions of absentee fathers -- both literally and figuratively. There are those who sire offspring and never own up to that fact, denying the responsibilities (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Parenting) that come with it. There are also those who, after a divorce, duck out on paying child support. And then there are those who, overwhelmed by the demands of their jobs, put their kids at the bottom of their "to do" lists.
Shame on them and their misplaced priorities. Shame on them all. Let them look to David Goldman for an example of the kind of man they'll never be.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Ruben Navarrette Jr.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: mlee on December 24, 2009, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: vivienne;59603
A story about NBC paying for David and Sean's flight - the author seems to have a problem with it:

http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m12d24-NBC-paid-for-flight-from-Brazil-for-David-Goldman-and-son-Sean (http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d24-NBC-paid-for-flight-from-Brazil-for-David-Goldman-and-son-Sean)

So what! Good for NBC for helping David and Sean go home!

This article also states the following: "The aircraft also carried New Jersey congressman Chris Smith and NBC News correspondent Jeff Rossen."
It's my understanding that Congressman Smith will be flying home on the earliest flight he could find at 11 pm! (Ethics regulation prohibits Smith from flying on corporate jets.)

Congratulations to the Goldman Family! The fight WILL resume for the many other LBPs!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: siajeannie on December 24, 2009, 02:04:37 PM
Does anyone know why Globo (I know, again!) is reporting that the Brazilian lawyer is saying Sean is going to Disney? :nixweiss:

Here: http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Rio/0,,MUL1426000-5606,00-SEAN+VAI+PASSAR+NATAL+NA+DISNEY+COM+PAI+BIOLOGICO+DIZ+ADVOGADO.html

Whatever the reason for this, I can respect and completely understand the lack of information on the matter.

Abraços a todos. Looking forward for tonight's interview with David!!

:D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bill33 on December 24, 2009, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: lovellboys;59449
I asked this on another thread, but I am hoping someone can clarify....
 
Apy said this morning on CBS that the custody agreement was in place in NJ from years ago. Did that agreement give David full custody and once they are back in NJ is it carved in stone?
 
She was also very quick to say the family stopped the Brazilian appeals, but that doesn't mean they won't come here and try to raise a stink.
 
Thoughts?


The US courts won't look kindly on the fact that they violated US court orders for years.  I don't think the dark side could win *any* visitation (even supervised) without David's approval.  Also, while he has always taken the high road and said he wouldn't do to the dark side what they've done to them, he must still have at least some real fear that the family could pull a fast one and re-abduct him.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: boxingmatchmaker on December 24, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
Quote from: Bill33;59655
The US courts won't look kindly on the fact that they violated US court orders for years. I don't think the dark side could win *any* visitation (even supervised) without David's approval. Also, while he has always taken the high road and said he wouldn't do to the dark side what they've done to them, he must still have at least some real fear that the family could pull a fast one and re-abduct him.

 
That doesnt make any sense. Why would they have given him back in Brazil just to come to America to snatch him?
 
I mean Bruna took the boy to Brazil and refused to bring him home. She died then they refused to hand him over and went through the courts to try and keep him. Although I found their actions to be sickening, they followed the law and surrendered him when the courts told them to.
 
Maybe now would be a good time to tone down the rhetoric?
Title: Conressman Smith should be on the private jet.
Post by: ronsloan on December 24, 2009, 02:09:41 PM
It is unreasonable that Congressman Smith would have to find his own way home from Brazil on Christmas Eve. I can't imagine anyone who would have faulted him for flying on a private jet and saving taxpayers the unnecessary cost of a commercial flight.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bill33 on December 24, 2009, 02:15:29 PM
Quote from: boxingmatchmaker;59658

Maybe now would be a good time to tone down the rhetoric?


Can I still say, I'd bet he'd rule out any trips to Italy or Euro-disney for the Brazilian family? :)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: faeryquene on December 24, 2009, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: leoP;58821
The Brazilian family had the resources to make this handover less dramatic. I am sure that they put Sean in this drama just to tell him that his dad had created this mess.

I've only just been able to grab a few minutes to watch that appalling footage.
 
The step-fiend JLS, and the interfering Silvana are a disgrace.:lynchmob:
 
How inhumane-shame on them to put Sean through that terrifying mob scene just to make a point. Now I can see for myself why it was so easy for them to flout the laws and common decency as they tortured David and Sean all those years without a care in the world.
 
They are fortunate that I am not Sean's parent-David is a far better person than I. I would ban them from my son's sight for life with only letters, and the occasional phone call allowed until his majority.
 
This reminds me of similar footage I've seen when one parent or guardian was ordered to turn over the child to the custodial parent and they insisted on doing it in the middle of the street. :cloud:
 
And from what I've read so far and seen on the news-Silvana and Tostes continue to put foot in mouth. That woman and attorney need to just shut up now and mind their own business-or David may, just may ban the Bianchi's from ever seeing Sean any time this decade. And who could blame him?
 
Ot but I hope that he sues them up the wazoo. And wins. He needs to hit them where it hurts-their collective pockets.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: leoP on December 24, 2009, 02:18:22 PM
They are not returning to Tinton Falls today.
 
http://www.app.com/article/20091224/NEWS/91224047/David-Goldman--son-will-not-return-to-Tinton-Falls-right-away--Congressman-Smith-says
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: siajeannie on December 24, 2009, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: leoP;59672
They are not returning to Tinton Falls today.
 
http://www.app.com/article/20091224/NEWS/91224047/David-Goldman--son-will-not-return-to-Tinton-Falls-right-away--Congressman-Smith-says

Thanks for posting! It's very hard for me to believe ANYTHING Globo says at this point, even when they quote someone else. SO many lies and tricks.

Congratulations for David and Goldman, a very wise decision indeed.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Karistx on December 24, 2009, 02:29:02 PM
Quote from: siajeannie;59675
Thanks for posting! It's very hard for me to believe ANYTHING Globo says at this point, even when they quote someone else. SO many lies and tricks.
 
Congratulations for David and Goldman, a very wise decision indeed.

GOOD! Stay rugged up next to a fireplace...have some hot chocolate and do things dads and sons do together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: heatheram29 on December 24, 2009, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: boxingmatchmaker;59658
That doesnt make any sense. Why would they have given him back in Brazil just to come to America to snatch him?
 
I mean Bruna took the boy to Brazil and refused to bring him home. She died then they refused to hand him over and went through the courts to try and keep him. Although I found their actions to be sickening, they followed the law and surrendered him when the courts told them to.
 
Maybe now would be a good time to tone down the rhetoric?

 
I think a lot of us have the same fear. If you think about it not a lot of what they do or say makes sense, at least not until they pull one of their stunts.. then it all becomes clear.
 
They have to know that the American courts are not going to give them ANY visitation whatsoever. Their ONLY hope to keep in contact with Sean is if David allows it. He has no reason to trust these people, none. They have not followed the law.. they skirted around it for 5 1/2 years, and when backed into a corner they lied, and even ran (case in point: David's attempted visit with Sean when they ignored the court order and disappeared with him). Given the chance they WOULD abduct him again. Financially, they have the means to disappear with him and go just about anywhere. Like Italy, where I believe Silvana was born. And then it starts all over again, except they won't allow themselves to be found.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: siajeannie on December 24, 2009, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: Karistx;59689
GOOD! Stay rugged up next to a fireplace...have some hot chocolate and do things dads and sons do together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha. great idea! :wink: yumm... hot chocolate! too bad my parents are far from here.... :frown: but celebrating as if they were. clap clap to David & Sean! :clapping:

Simone

@brazilinyc or @latinwriter on Twitter
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: DB4 on December 24, 2009, 02:53:51 PM
Quote from: leoP;59672
They are not returning to Tinton Falls today.
 
http://www.app.com/article/20091224/NEWS/91224047/David-Goldman--son-will-not-return-to-Tinton-Falls-right-away--Congressman-Smith-says

I'm really glad to hear this.  Once again, very wise decisions on what is "best" for Sean.  I'll be praying and thinking about the Goldman family...I know the love will overflow!!
Title: David and Sean will be in DisneyWorld for Xmas!!!
Post by: Feltian on December 24, 2009, 02:54:55 PM
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Rio/0,,MUL1426000-5606,00-SEAN+VAI+PASSAR+NATAL+NA+DISNEY+COM+PAI+BIOLOGICO+DIZ+ADVOGADO.html (http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Rio/0,,MUL1426000-5606,00-SEAN+VAI+PASSAR+NATAL+NA+DISNEY+COM+PAI+BIOLOGICO+DIZ+ADVOGADO.html)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Feltian on December 24, 2009, 02:58:29 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-orlando-david-sean-goldman-reunited-cu20091224,0,3663841.story
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: nina on December 24, 2009, 03:01:05 PM
I remember seeing in the past some pictures of David and Sean in Disney...I think this is a great idea!!!

They will have lots of fun, lots of laughter together...!!!!

What a cool thing to do: spend xmas night at Disney with your great dad..WOW. Priceless!!!!

:)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Herb Wife on December 24, 2009, 03:01:36 PM
CNN is putting a negative slant on things...now
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Herb Wife on December 24, 2009, 03:03:26 PM
Judy Kuriansky..."therapist"...cmon people email them!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: Herb Wife;59722
CNN is putting a negative slant on things...now


Shut her up please. Ugh
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 24, 2009, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: Herb Wife;59722
CNN is putting a negative slant on things...now


Against 'them' or David?  

I hate asking this, and forgive me if it has been voiced, but does David have protection in Florida?  Or even NJ for that matter.  I hate thinking something could happen, but from Florida all they have to is catch a boat.  I am not putting it past them to try anything, and their actions today prove the fight is still on for them.  Someone please reassure me!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Herb Wife on December 24, 2009, 03:07:54 PM
Quote from: Eccaka;59727
Shut her up please. Ugh

 
She's a moron!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 24, 2009, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: Eccaka;59727
Shut her up please. Ugh



She's a moron.  She must need referrals.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Herb Wife on December 24, 2009, 03:11:16 PM
Quote from: lovellboys;59731
She's a moron. She must need referrals.

I just posted in another thread earlier CNN had another so called expert on that was just as ill informed as this one...may need to shut things down for a bit...i'm geting very mad &.... it's Christmas Eve
need to stay happy & joyous!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: lovellboys;59731
She's a moron.  She must need referrals.


First of all, that whiny voice.... then "His yellow shirt is a very telling part of his identity" "this is gonna happen" "he'll have headaches". Just UGH! Shut up! I get what she's saying (and it's not just her, it's all of these so called experts) but all of the worst case scenario pronouncements are making me crazy. Let's just all step back and let everyone breathe for a bit
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 03:20:15 PM
Quote from: Herb Wife;59736
I just posted in another thread earlier CNN had another so called expert on that was just as ill informed as this one...may need to shut things down for a bit...i'm geting very mad &.... it's Christmas Eve
need to stay happy & joyous!


I'm with you. The lack of sleep the last 3 days is causing me to have ZERO patience with all of theses ill-informed and ill-intentioned "experts"
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Jackie in Upstate NY on December 24, 2009, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: Herb Wife;59736
I just posted in another thread earlier CNN had another so called expert on that was just as ill informed as this one...may need to shut things down for a bit...i'm geting very mad &.... it's Christmas Eve
need to stay happy & joyous!
Take a break and enjoy your day - some things will pass and aren't worth the bother. Ignore those things that don't deserve the attention - its prolly for media exposure. There are always the opportunist and am sure there will be more that try to benefit from this world news. Its sick, but its the way of those that live in a bit of a demented world - as we have already witnessed. Take some time to enjoy yourself - finish wrapping yet ?????
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 03:25:41 PM
Quote from: lovellboys;59728
Against 'them' or David?  

I hate asking this, and forgive me if it has been voiced, but does David have protection in Florida?  Or even NJ for that matter.  I hate thinking something could happen, but from Florida all they have to is catch a boat.  I am not putting it past them to try anything, and their actions today prove the fight is still on for them.  Someone please reassure me!!


I don't think Sean is in any danger of being snatched by them. First of all I'm sure David will be sticking close. Second, I'm sure there is some behind the scenes surveillance going on (the press, the gov't etc.) If they enter the country in the near future I'm sure someone will pick up on it
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: william2009 on December 24, 2009, 03:27:15 PM
do we know when david will give an interview
Im really excited to see his emotions and how hes doing with his son
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: todez on December 24, 2009, 03:28:31 PM
New video from NBC...4 hours into the flight

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34587052#34587052

There will also be an interview with David (recorded during the flight) on NBC Nightly News, tonight.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chopchop on December 24, 2009, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: william2009;59756
do we know when david will give an interview
Im really excited to see his emotions and how hes doing with his son

 
Tonight on NBC with Jeff Rossen...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: MCD on December 24, 2009, 03:30:59 PM
Disney parks are such a good thing to be spent 2 at a time. David was really smart doing this stopover. Being alone and having fun it is all they need right now. I hope NBC will not follow them around too much.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: :: ultranol :: on December 24, 2009, 03:34:53 PM
Quote from: todez;59757
New video from NBC...4 hours into the flight
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34587052#34587052
 
There will also be an interview with David (recorded during the flight) on NBC Nightly News, tonight.

I am absolutely ecstatic and moved with the outlook that Jeff Rosen is reporting. He didn't shed a tear on the flight. This is absolutely, 100% made of pure awesomeness.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 24, 2009, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: :: ultranol ::;59762
I am absolutely ecstatic and moved with the outlook that Jeff Rosen is reporting. He didn't shed a tear on the flight. This is absolutely, 100% made of pure awesomeness.


True that.  No matter what psycho-whatever comes out now to say how traumatized Sean will be should be asked to make a comparison between the transition issues versus parental alienation.  Which is worse?  I don't need a Phd to answer that.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bill33 on December 24, 2009, 03:38:58 PM
Quote from: todez;59757
New video from NBC...4 hours into the flight

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34587052#34587052

There will also be an interview with David (recorded during the flight) on NBC Nightly News, tonight.


This is a must-see video!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SFBayAreaLibra on December 24, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/XFL5
 
They're above Florida, no longer the ocean. 2 hours to go to NJ. No words to express. Just crying.  Welcome home Sean. Your father can live again.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: todez;59757
New video from NBC...4 hours into the flight

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34587052#34587052

There will also be an interview with David (recorded during the flight) on NBC Nightly News, tonight.


Awesome!

But how big is the plane? I know a plane cabin is not exactly quiet and private planes are generally not set up in the typical rows. Jeff seemed to be talking fairly loudly in order to be heard. The plane looked small. How far could he have been away from David and Sean while talking?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SFBayAreaLibra on December 24, 2009, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: Eccaka;59767
Awesome!
 
But how big is the plane? I know a plane cabin is not exactly quiet and private planes are generally not set up in the typical rows. Jeff seemed to be talking fairly loudly in order to be heard. The plane looked small. How far could he have been away from David and Sean while talking?

He just said (listening online) he's seated 10 feet away from them.  Quite a decent sized plane by the way. NBC chartered it for all of their people and invited David, Sean, etc. and they accepted. :D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 24, 2009, 03:45:52 PM
Quote from: SFBayAreaLibra;59771
He just said (listening online) he's seated 10 feet away from them.  Quite a decent sized plane by the way. NBC chartered it for all of their people and invited David, Sean, etc. and they accepted. :D


I thought it was small. Just weird to be talking about people when they are right there, you know
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: SFBayAreaLibra on December 24, 2009, 03:48:24 PM
The plane Sean and David are on is VERY similar to the one at this link but with about 3 more rows of seats (bigger interior).
 
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mountain-Aviation-Inc./Gulfstream-Aerospace-G-IV/0898966/
 
Track their flight @ http://flightaware.com/live/flight/XFL5
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: todez;59757
New video from NBC...4 hours into the flight

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34587052#34587052

There will also be an interview with David (recorded during the flight) on NBC Nightly News, tonight.


Thanks for the link!  Great update from Jeff Rossen
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tartine on December 24, 2009, 03:54:44 PM
Quote from: SFBayAreaLibra;59778
The plane Sean and David are on is VERY similar to the one at this link but with about 3 more rows of seats (bigger interior).
 
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mountain-Aviation-Inc./Gulfstream-Aerospace-G-IV/0898966/
 
Track their flight @ http://flightaware.com/live/flight/XFL5

NICE!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tartine on December 24, 2009, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: todez;59757
New video from NBC...4 hours into the flight
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34587052#34587052
 
There will also be an interview with David (recorded during the flight) on NBC Nightly News, tonight.

AWESOME news!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: noah3698;59511
Front page of Oglobo....
 
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/12/24/menino-sean-goldman-embarca-com-pai-para-os-estados-unidos-915352073.asp


She's probably feeling more sorry for herself than anything.  I have zero sympathy for her
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: liesl78;59403
Ok, again, bigger version, just for the sake of it.


That sight just keeps getting better and better!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: heatheram29;59648
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE!!
 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/12/24/navarrette.brazil.goldman.custody/index.html
 
My choice for 'Father of the Year'

By Ruben Navarrette Jr., Special to CNN
December 24, 2009 12:13 p.m. ESTDecember 24, 2009 12:13 p.m. EST

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/OPINION/12/24/navarrette.brazil.goldman.custody/tzleft.ruben.navarrette.sdut.jpg)


STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • David Goldman has been seeking custody of his son for five years
  • Brazilian family has fought against return of Sean Goldman, Ruben Navarrette says
  • He says David Goldman exemplifies what a father should be
  • Navarrette: Too many men run away from the responsibilities of fatherhood


RELATED TOPICS
  • David Goldman (http://"http://topics.cnn.com/topics/David_Goldman)
  • Brazil (http://"http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Brazil)
  • Parenting (http://"http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Parenting)
Editor's note: Ruben Navarrette Jr. is a member of the San Diego Union-Tribune editorial board, a nationally syndicated columnist, and a regular contributor to CNN.COM. Read his column here (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/columnists/ruben-navarrette/).
San Diego, California (CNN) -- For Father of the Year, my nomination goes to David Goldman. Hands down. In fact, for his persistence in tilting at windmills and challenging a foreign government to regain custody of his son and bring him home, Goldman should be named Father of the Last Five Years.
That's how long Goldman has been fighting the legal system of Brazil to secure the return of his son. Sean Goldman was just 4 years old when his Brazilian-born mother, Bruna Bianchi, took him from the family home in New Jersey to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, in 2004 for what was supposed to be a two-week vacation, but turned into a long and heart-wrenching ordeal.
Bianchi never returned, but instead remarried and retained custody of Sean in Brazil. She died last year in childbirth, and, since then, David Goldman has been battling her family, the Bianchis.
In most countries around the world, Goldman's argument -- that, as the sole surviving parent, he should be granted custody of the boy -- would probably have carried the day. But, as Goldman soon learned, Brazil is a whole different ballgame. I suspect that the Bianchis knew just enough influential lawyers and judges to spitefully keep this case tied up in the courts for five years.
This week, there was a dramatic development that resulted in the now 9-year-old boy being reunited with his father. The chief justice of the Brazilian Supreme Court, Gilmar Mendes, ruled in favor of Goldman. In doing so, Mendes lifted a stay of another pro-Goldman lower court ruling that was last week issued by a lone Supreme Court justice. Goldman (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/David_Goldman), who has taken countless trips to Brazil in the last few years, had been in Rio de Janeiro for the past week. Waiting. Always waiting.
Meanwhile, the Brazilian attorney general sided with Goldman. Luis Inacio Adams was worried that, if Brazil starts cherry-picking which multinational treaties and international obligations it's going to follow, other countries could reciprocate against Brazilian citizens making similar claims. Adams was also concerned that, if the boy wasn't returned to his father, Brazil (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Brazil) could have faced devastating economic sanctions from the United States.
I'm sure I speak for millions of American parents, who have watched this case with bated breath and heavy hearts, when I say: You had better believe it, pal.
U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-New Jersey, recently placed a hold on an export tariff bill that would have provided a benefit of $2.75 billion to Brazil. Lautenberg was trying to exert additional pressure on Brazilian authorities to follow their own laws, obey their own court rulings and do the right thing.
This Brazilian telenovela is ridiculous. I tuned in several months ago, and I've been shaking my head incredulously ever since. At the same time, I've been inspired by David Goldman -- and his lonely battle to reunite with his son.
As the father of three small children, there's nothing I wouldn't have done to achieve the same outcome if I were in his shoes. I can say that. And I mean it. But I realize that I'm speaking in the hypothetical.
David Goldman has lived out this nightmare in real time. He's been courageous, dignified and persistent. He didn't quit. Nor should he have, since it's hard to think of a more righteous cause.
My dad likes that old saying about how any man can be a father but not every man can be a dad. He's right, of course. In this country, there are millions of absentee fathers -- both literally and figuratively. There are those who sire offspring and never own up to that fact, denying the responsibilities (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Parenting) that come with it. There are also those who, after a divorce, duck out on paying child support. And then there are those who, overwhelmed by the demands of their jobs, put their kids at the bottom of their "to do" lists.
Shame on them and their misplaced priorities. Shame on them all. Let them look to David Goldman for an example of the kind of man they'll never be.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Ruben Navarrette Jr.

I fully agree with him!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: lovellboys;59731
She's a moron.  She must need referrals.

Isn't she the one who was acting as the "expert" on some of those smarmy talk shows in the past too?  Pfft.  She is a moron
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Abby Normal on December 24, 2009, 04:26:21 PM
Quote from: chicybaby;59207
This is the best present any of us could get. Everyone's holidays is now A MILLION TIMES BETTER!! Who needs anything else? NOT ME!!! I had lost so much hope over the past few months but to think this is happening on Christmas Eve is the absolute best news!! I go back in forth crying and dancing, crying, dancing. All the best wishes to everyone!
:cheer::clapping::D


Me too - absolutely!  If my husband were to walk into the room right now (he's doing last-minute shopping) he'd be shocked to see my face which is tear-streaked.  Even before seeing the video I was doing the happy dance mixed with breaking down and crying a little every time I thought about Sean and David...but then I saw the video of the wheels going up and I just bawled like a baby!  So so so happy.  It's so funny how something so removed from me can affect me so much - or as much as this one has anyway.  Usually I distance myself more from national or international stories.

My boys and I just cracked a few brazil nuts from our bowl of nuts.  It felt good to do so. :D One for the nut-job, control-freak granny and one for her criminal, power-abusing son-in-law.  Karma and justice...oh so sweet.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
Here's my latest post, for anyone who's interested:
http://riogringa.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/12/finally.html
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: liesl78 on December 24, 2009, 04:29:16 PM
Great article in Portuguese, quoting Patricia Apy and giving correct background on the case (for a change)

Attorney criticizes Brazilian family for exposing Sean too much
http://noticias.uol.com.br/ultnot/internacional/2009/12/24/ult1859u2096.jhtm
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Luiza on December 24, 2009, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;59814
Here's my latest post, for anyone who's interested:
http://riogringa.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/12/finally.html

That was wonderful RioGringa
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: AGratehouse on December 24, 2009, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: SFBayAreaLibra;59766
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/XFL5
 
They're above Florida, no longer the ocean. 2 hours to go to NJ. No words to express. Just crying. Welcome home Sean. Your father can live again.

This website says that the destination for this flight is Orlando Intl???
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Caldwell on December 24, 2009, 04:39:57 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;59814
Here's my latest post, for anyone who's interested:
http://riogringa.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/12/finally.html

Been gone much of the day. Great blog, Rio.  I HAVE to ask, though, did Tostes REALLY say that to Chris Smith? OMG!! Is that on tape!?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chutt123 on December 24, 2009, 04:40:51 PM
Quote from: AGratehouse;59826
This website says that the destination for this flight is Orlando Intl???


I think it's been stated they aren't going back to Jersey tonight. I am glad in a way. The press would be all over them!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: DB4 on December 24, 2009, 04:42:28 PM
Quote from: Caldwell;59829
Been gone much of the day. Great blog, Rio. I HAVE to ask, though, did Tostes REALLY say that to Chris Smith? OMG!! Is that on tape!?

Check out Chris Smith's interview on Today Show this morning at 7 AM.  He described Tostes saying something to him - it sure sounds like that.
 
Tostes has no class.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Kevin on December 24, 2009, 04:43:06 PM
My wife just showed me a 10 minute video clip from a Brasilian media website. It was the most detailed video I have seen so far of Sean leaving the vehicle and walking towards the Consulate.
 
What struck me was that although the cameraman had a very close up perspective of teh boy leaving the vehicle, they decided to blur out his face so you couldn't discern his expression.
 
Now I am thinking that they did this because the boy wasn't crying, which conflicts with the Grama's repeated statements. My wife says it is because in Brasil it is illegal to show the faces of minors on Television.
 
So which is it? I find her explanation lacking in credibility since we have seen other media footage which included clear shots of his facial expressions (none of which involved crying)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bill33 on December 24, 2009, 04:45:38 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;59814
Here's my latest post, for anyone who's interested:
http://riogringa.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/12/finally.html

Thanks RG, is that for real about Toastes screaming at Smith "you are a ***"??

That sounds like something I would read on "The Onion", unreal
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 04:47:40 PM
Great blog Rio Gringa!  I am surprised at the stupidity Tostes has shown today (and I didn't think that was possible with that group).  Just proves yet again how smarmy and evil they are in that group.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Roberta Palermo on December 24, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
And do you know what? I am sure Sean's mother, the one we still hate a lot, is taking care of them now. I don't know what happens when we die, but I am sure that we turn into a good person anyway. Roberta Palermo
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Kevin;59833
My wife just showed me a 10 minute video clip from a Brasilian media website. It was the most detailed video I have seen so far of Sean leaving the vehicle and walking towards the Consulate.
 
What struck me was that although the cameraman had a very close up perspective of teh boy leaving the vehicle, they decided to blur out his face so you couldn't discern his expression.
 
Now I am thinking that they did this because the boy wasn't crying, which conflicts with the Grama's repeated statements. My wife says it is because in Brasil it is illegal to show the faces of minors on Television.
 
So which is it? I find her explanation lacking in credibility since we have seen other media footage which included clear shots of his facial expressions (none of which involved crying)

Maybe it's a little of both?  I can see how both would be used here
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Roberta Palermo on December 24, 2009, 04:51:32 PM
Sean will be so proud of his dad! Roberta Palermo
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Roberta Palermo on December 24, 2009, 05:02:28 PM
My father was the best father of the world, but David is the best father ever!! I am very proud of him! He didn't give up. Why are we so far from NJ?? I want to cross the street and say: you are the best! Roberta Palermo
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gr8one on December 24, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: Roberta Palermo;59853
My father was the best father of the world, but David is the best father ever!! I am very proud of him! He didn't give up. Why are we so far from NJ?? I want to cross the street and say: you are the best! Roberta Palermo

David is an amazing father, isn't he?  I wish my Dad had been as incredible as he is.  Sean is one extermely lucky boy
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bo1 on December 24, 2009, 05:50:02 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;59814
Here's my latest post, for anyone who's interested:
http://riogringa.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/12/finally.html


Quote
The Brazilian family lawyer, Sergio Tostes, decided to put the last nail in the coffin that is his international career and screamed at Congressman Chris Smith, "You are a motherXXXXer!"


OMG....I haven't heard that! Was that caught on film by the media?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: gil on December 24, 2009, 05:57:46 PM
Quote from: Bo1;59876
OMG....I haven't heard that! Was that caught on film by the media?

That's according to C. Smith on the Today show. Smith said Tostes called him a "mother...." (and left out the second part of course)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 06:04:57 PM
Quote from: gil;59882
That's according to C. Smith on the Today show. Smith said Tostes called him a "mother...." (and left out the second part of course)


That's where I got it from - the Today Show segment. He obviously wouldn't say the whole thing out loud on national TV, but that is what he implied.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Kerry on December 24, 2009, 06:08:59 PM
Apologies if this was already posted.....an excellent interview with Bernard Aronson.



http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=david%20goldman&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: MCD on December 24, 2009, 06:16:30 PM
It is live on Orlando news
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Chuckles on December 24, 2009, 06:42:39 PM
ABC just got it right - an abduction rather than a custody case.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 06:45:01 PM
Just watched the NBC Nightly News segment. I cried.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bill33 on December 24, 2009, 06:52:17 PM
If someone has a link to the NBC nightly news video, please post it.  Thanks
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: carlaleader on December 24, 2009, 06:52:55 PM
I missed it on nightly news...I hope it's online soon!  What were the highlights?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lexi on December 24, 2009, 06:55:24 PM
One of the other networks mentioned that child abduction has become a big problem too - just had different numbers than ABC.
 
The NBC segment was heartwarming - I thought Jeff Rossen seemed like he was getting a little emotional which is sometimes good to see in a reporter.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lexi on December 24, 2009, 07:00:54 PM
Quote from: carlaleader;59906
I missed it on nightly news...I hope it's online soon! What were the highlights?

Apparently Sean slept for most of the flight but when he was awake he played games and did puzzles with David.
 
David said that his son was sleeping 5 feet away from him and it made his heart melt. He gave Sean a gentle kiss on his forehead while he slept.
 
Chris Smith  described the family's choice to parade Sean thought the media horde as theatre  and something else...sorry I'm getting jumbled because I was flipping back and forth though the channels :)
 
-----
 
Oh and Tostes with his cronies talked about the inhumanity of it all and called on the Brazilian govt to fight for visitation....
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 07:02:11 PM
From CBS News, bit alarmist though:

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 07:08:40 PM
That is a message also to the kidnappers of the other children still in Brazil: STOP ABUSING THOSE CHILDREN!

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: André Felipe on December 24, 2009, 07:09:21 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;59888
That's where I got it from - the Today Show segment. He obviously wouldn't say the whole thing out loud on national TV, but that is what he implied.

Tostes capabilities of violating the Bar Ethics Code knows no bound.
His duty was to be as discrete as Zamariola was during the entire struggle.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lexi on December 24, 2009, 07:11:15 PM
I should mention that NBC didn't show Sean's face while he slept so they weren't intrusive or anything (just the top of his head).
 
The ABC reporter described JPLS choice to parade him thought the media as one last act of defiance. Barry Goldman called it terrible which it is of course.
 
CBS seems determined to report itself into irrelevance with its negative cast on the story.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 07:15:58 PM
Quote from: André Felipe;59918
Tostes capabilities of violating the Bar Ethics Code knows no bound.
His duty was to be as discrete as Zamariola was during the entire struggle.

Zamariola deserves a medal for this. His career will skyrocket after this, I imagine, but I hope he gets honored in some way. He is a tough fighter, and he does it with class and calm, unlike Tostes.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chopchop on December 24, 2009, 07:16:39 PM
BFJ, thank you so much for posting all these videos.  To Rep. Smith, thank you, thank you, thank you.  You stepped up to the plate and gave a strong and convincing voice to the tragedy playing out in Brazil.  Without you Mr. Smith this happy Christmas Eve reunion would not have happened, we are grateful.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 07:18:48 PM
Quote from: Lexi;59920
(...)
CBS seems determined to report itself into irrelevance with its negative cast on the story.
CBS makes Globo TV to look like a first world operation...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 07:26:05 PM
Nothing material in the report, but it has some scenes from this morning.

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lexi on December 24, 2009, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;59923
CBS makes Globo TV to look like a first world operation...

Agreed. Edward R. Murrow must be spinning in his grave. Cronkite too.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Lexi;59937
Agreed. Edward R. Murrow must be spinning in his grave. Cronkite too.
Agree. They deserved much better than having now Les Moonves, Zev Shalev and Elizabeth Bacelar...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Caldwell on December 24, 2009, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;59923
CBS makes Globo TV to look like a first world operation...

I will NOT watch CBS. Was is that bad?  Summaries I will read, so please....

We have to nail that reporter or producer who is a friend of Silavana, James Joseph has posted her email before.....I sent her an unmerciful note...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Caldwell on December 24, 2009, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;59921
Zamariola deserves a medal for this. His career will skyrocket after this, I imagine, but I hope he gets honored in some way. He is a tough fighter, and he does it with class and calm, unlike Tostes.

Agreed. Silent hero.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: DB4 on December 24, 2009, 07:49:10 PM
Is there a link somewhere to the NBC Nightly News segment with Jeff Rossen? I just returned home and would love to see it.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: pam.in.ny on December 24, 2009, 07:54:47 PM
I hope there is a link. My Uncle who usually goes to Mexico for Christmas to escape the cold and usually calls Christmas Day, decided he was going to phone tonight just before Jeff Rossen's report came one. I love my uncle dearly but ............ I missed the report. I've been waiting all afternoon to see it.

Thanks,
Pam
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jjsaunt on December 24, 2009, 07:55:24 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;59888
That's where I got it from - the Today Show segment. He obviously wouldn't say the whole thing out loud on national TV, but that is what he implied.

The interview with Today had Chris Smith saying that Tostes said to him that "you are (inaudible)". I haven't seen another interview with Chris Smith repeating what he said. One of the other versions is that he said "you are the abductor". I can tell you that after listening to it about 10 times - I don't know which version he said. I actually doubt that Chris Smith would have repeated a vulgarity so I am going for the "abductor" version.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: tnajk on December 24, 2009, 07:57:33 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/

NBC Nightly News Link
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: jjsaunt;59959
The interview with Today had Chris Smith saying that Tostes said to him that "you are (inaudible)". I haven't seen another interview with Chris Smith repeating what he said. One of the other versions is that he said "you are the abductor". I can tell you that after listening to it about 10 times - I don't know which version he said. I actually doubt that Chris Smith would have repeated a vulgarity so I am going for the "abductor" version.

I'm pretty sure he said "mother." Like I said, he'd never say the full word on TV.

I'm checking with someone who will probably know, though.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: liesl78 on December 24, 2009, 08:04:25 PM
is it this video?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#34588865
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: liesl78;59969
is it this video?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#34588865

Yes, that was shown on the Nightly News.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: margie on December 24, 2009, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: DB4;59952
Is there a link somewhere to the NBC Nightly News segment with Jeff Rossen? I just returned home and would love to see it.

Go to:

http://www.msnbc.com
Then click on Nightly News. Then click on the video about David and Sean. Someone else is filling in for Brian Williams. It was a very good report.

Margie
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: Caldwell;59944
I will NOT watch CBS. Was is that bad?  Summaries I will read, so please....

We have to nail that reporter or producer who is a friend of Silvana, James Joseph has posted her email before.....I sent her an unmerciful note...
You might be referring to Elizabeth (Liz) Bacelar (bacelare@csnews.com) . She was working for Zev Shalev at The Early Show back in the summer, when they lent their studios to the kidnappers. Here are some addresses there if you or anyone else needs them:

Deb Huberman,Producer, Early Show - hubermand@cbsbnews.com (hubermand@cbsbnews.com)
 
Jim Mietus, Producer, Early Show - jm1@cbsnews.com (jm1@cbsnews.com)

Michael Rosen - rosenm@cbsnews.com (rosenm@cbsnews.com)

Anthony Batson - abp@cbsnews.com (abp@cbsnews.com)

Betsy Alexander - alexanderb@cbsnews.com (alexanderb@cbsnews.com)

Soshea Liebler - sle@cbsnews.com (sle@cbsnews.com)

Tom Mazzarelli - mazzarellit@cbsnews.com (mazzarellit@cbsnews.com)

Amy Birnbaum - amb@cbsnews.com (amb@cbsnews.com)

Beatrix Gruber - bgr@cbsnews.com (bgr@cbsnews.com)

Beatrix Parash - bparash@cbsnews.com (bparash@cbsnews.com)

Kevin Rochford - kro@cbsnews.com (kro@cbsnews.com)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Grace on December 24, 2009, 08:09:34 PM
No, an earlier video. I want to hear that agan too. Chris Smith spoke as soon as the plane departed.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: tnajk;59963
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/

NBC Nightly News Link

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: mfer on December 24, 2009, 08:17:54 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/12/24/brazil.custody/index.html

Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (CNN) -- A father and son reunited after an international custody battle planned to spend their first holiday season together in five years at Disney World in Florida, a family friend said.
 David Goldman and his 9-year-old son, Sean, arrived at Orlando International Airport just after 6 p.m. Thursday after meeting earlier at the U.S. Consulate in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
 Sean Goldman had been living in Brazil since 2004 when his mother, Bruna Bianchi, took him to Rio de Janeiro for what was to have been a two-week vacation. She never returned, instead remarrying there and retaining custody of Sean. She died last year in childbirth.
 The Goldmans will spend their first holiday season together in five years at Disney World, a family friend told CNN.
 Rep. Chris Smith of New Jersey, who flew to Rio to support constituent Goldman, called the father-son reunion "extraordinary" in a conference call with reporters. The lawmaker said "there were lots of smiles, hugs" when the two were reunited. "They talked about basketball, the snowfall in New Jersey just recently and how much fun it is to play in the snow."
 The Christmas Eve reunion follows a five-year battle that involved U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and numerous Brazilian courtrooms.
 The chief justice of the Brazilian Supreme Court ruled Tuesday in favor of Goldman, who had been battling the family of the boy's deceased mother for custody. The ruling by Chief Justice Gilmar Mendes paved the way for the reunion when the family said they would not file any new appeals in an attempt to keep the boy with them.
 Goldman argued he should be granted custody as the sole surviving parent.
 The Bianchi family maintained it would traumatize Sean to remove him from what has been his home for five years.
 Smith criticized the decision of Sean's stepfather and other members of his Brazilian family Thursday to "walk [Sean] through a group of reporters and people outside the U.S. Consulate in Rio," Smith said.
 The boy's maternal grandmother, Silvana Bianchi, had declined a consulate offer of a police escort Thursday morning from the family's Rio home, saying it would harm the boy psychologically, according to the Brazilian broadcast network TV Record.
  The boy, appearing worried and frightened, arrived at the consulate wearing a yellow and green Brazil (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Brazil) soccer jersey, and clutched his stepfather as he walked past a throng of reporters.
 TV Record reported that Sean's grandmother provided David Goldman with a list of the boy's allergies and medications.
 In a statement read to reporters by Smith, David Goldman offered his "sincere and humblest gratitude" for the help he received in getting his son. "Please know that my love and the rest of Sean's family's love for him knows no boundaries."
 Goldman later let his son speak on the phone with his paternal grandparents, Smith said.
 The custody battle garnered much media attention and spilled over into the political arena as well.
 U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-New Jersey, had placed a hold on a trade bill that would have benefited Brazil to the tune of $2.75 billion, but he lifted it after the court's ruling, spokesman Caley Gray said.
 Clinton also has issued statements calling for an amicable conclusion to the case.
 "I am thrilled that 9-year-old Sean Goldman was reunited with his father David Goldman earlier today in Rio de Janeiro and that they are flying home to New Jersey," Clinton said Thursday in a statement.
 "I want to thank everyone who helped bring this long process to a successful conclusion, including a number of members of Congress and many concerned parties both here and in Brazil.
 "We also appreciate the assistance and cooperation of the government of Brazil in upholding its obligations under the Hague Convention on International Child Abduction. I offer my warmest wishes for father and son as they celebrate their first holiday season together in five years."
 Sean led a privileged life in Rio de Janeiro, TV Record said. He lived in the wealthy neighborhood of Jardim Botanico and attended Escola Parque, one of the most prestigious schools in the city.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: william2009 on December 24, 2009, 08:19:19 PM
is there going to be a full interview with david in the near future???
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamesJosephs on December 24, 2009, 08:28:31 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;59972
You might be referring to Elizabeth (Liz) Bacelar (bacelare@csnews.com) . She was working for Zev Shalev at The Early Show back in the summer, when they lent their studios to the kidnappers. Here are some addresses there if you or anyone else needs them:
 
Deb Huberman,Producer, Early Show - hubermand@cbsbnews.com (hubermand@cbsbnews.com)
 
Jim Mietus, Producer, Early Show - jm1@cbsnews.com (jm1@cbsnews.com)
 
Michael Rosen - rosenm@cbsnews.com (rosenm@cbsnews.com)
 
Anthony Batson - abp@cbsnews.com (abp@cbsnews.com)
 
Betsy Alexander - alexanderb@cbsnews.com (alexanderb@cbsnews.com)
 
Soshea Liebler - sle@cbsnews.com (sle@cbsnews.com)
 
Tom Mazzarelli - mazzarellit@cbsnews.com (mazzarellit@cbsnews.com)
 
Amy Birnbaum - amb@cbsnews.com (amb@cbsnews.com)
 
Beatrix Gruber - bgr@cbsnews.com (bgr@cbsnews.com)
 
Beatrix Parash - bparash@cbsnews.com (bparash@cbsnews.com)
 
Kevin Rochford - kro@cbsnews.com (kro@cbsnews.com)

 
I urge anyone unhappy with CBS News coverage of the Sean Goldman abduction case, to reach out to the above email addresses and express their displeasure.
 
Remember, not only was Liz Bacelar, former editor of the Connecticut based Brazilian American newspaper The Tribuna, responsible for tonight's abysmal report, also
 
1. LIZ BACELAR is covering the story for CBS in Rio and on Monday reported the False Story that Judge Mendes was going to defer his decision on lifting the stay order on David's return order in February; she has been the first and only "american" reporter to tweet on the kidnappers' negotiations with the Brazilian gov't;
 
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:R_kOtZCbRUkJ:wap.cbsnews.com/site%3Fsid%3Dcbsnews%26pid%3Dsections.detail%26catId%3DTOP%26isBlog%3Dfalse%26storyId%3D6005329%26index%3D2+liz+bacelar+mendes&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:R_kOtZCbRUkJ:wap.cbsnews.com/site%3Fsid%3Dcbsnews%26pid%3Dsections.detail%26catId%3DTOP%26isBlog%3Dfalse%26storyId%3D6005329%26index%3D2+liz+bacelar+mendes&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
 
 
2. LIZ BACELAR also worked as a producer at the CBS Early Show for Zev Shalev, and was involved in the Harry Smith's handholding of the kidnappers and the ILLEGAL interogation of Sean that was quashed by Patricia Apy.
 
 
Why would the network of Walter Cronkite continue to employ an incompetent and arguably unethical reporter like Liz Bacelar?
 
bacelare@cbsnews.com (bacelare@cbsnews.com)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: Grace;59974
No, an earlier video. I want to hear that agan too. Chris Smith spoke as soon as the plane departed.

Yeah, I didn't mean it was the Chris Smith video. People had been asking for the latest NBC segment.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 08:35:43 PM
Quote from: JamesJosephs;59991
I urge anyone unhappy with CBS News coverage of the Sean Goldman abduction case, to reach out to the above email addresses and express their displeasure.
 
Remember, not only was Liz Bacelar, former editor of the Connecticut based Brazilian American newspaper The Tribuna, responsible for tonight's abysmal report, also
 
1. LIZ BACELAR is covering the story for CBS in Rio and on Monday reported the False Story that Judge Mendes was going to defer his decision on lifting the stay order on David's return order in February; she has been the first and only "american" reporter to tweet on the kidnappers' negotiations with the Brazilian gov't;
 
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:R_kOtZCbRUkJ:wap.cbsnews.com/site%3Fsid%3Dcbsnews%26pid%3Dsections.detail%26catId%3DTOP%26isBlog%3Dfalse%26storyId%3D6005329%26index%3D2+liz+bacelar+mendes&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
 
 
2. LIZ BACELAR also worked as a producer at the CBS Early Show for Zev Shalev, and was involved in the Harry Smith's handholding of the kidnappers and the ILLEGAL interogation of Sean that was quashed by Patricia Apy.
 
 
Why would the network of Walter Cronkite continue to employ an incompetent and arguably unethical reporter like Liz Bacelar?
 
bacelare@cbsnews.com (bacelare@cbsnews.com)
Here are the email of the big kahunas as well. The one for Zev Shalev is missing.

Sumner Redstone – CBS Chairman – sredstone@cbs.com (sredstone@cbs.com)
 Leslie Moonves – CBS CEO – lmoonves@cbs.com (lmoonves@cbs.com)
 Louis Briskman – CBS EVP & General Council – ljbriskman@cbs.com (ljbriskman@cbs.com)
 Sean McManus, President CBS News Division
 sjmcmanus@cbs.com (sjmcmanus@cbs.com)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: siajeannie on December 24, 2009, 08:37:12 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;59972
You might be referring to Elizabeth (Liz) Bacelar (bacelare@csnews.com) . She was working for Zev Shalev at The Early Show back in the summer, when they lent their studios to the kidnappers. Here are some addresses there if you or anyone else needs them:

Deb Huberman,Producer, Early Show - hubermand@cbsbnews.com (hubermand@cbsbnews.com)
 
Jim Mietus, Producer, Early Show - jm1@cbsnews.com (jm1@cbsnews.com)


What is that you guys are planning to say or complaint, rather? I am asking 'cause my current roommate works for two of the main producers for CBS News, Sunday Morning edition. She is very closed to the family, may I just say she takes very good care of their children? Not sure how a complaint might help, but if you want some fair coverage, I might convince her to talk to them about it.  :cool:

I already told her about the case but I barely see her at home so we only talked about it once. In that note, she will be back home after Christmas.

Best to all.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: siajeannie on December 24, 2009, 08:43:31 PM
Quote from: JamesJosephs;59991
I urge anyone unhappy with CBS News coverage of the Sean Goldman abduction case, to reach out to the above email addresses and express their displeasure.
 
Remember, not only was Liz Bacelar, former editor of the Connecticut based Brazilian American newspaper The Tribuna, responsible for tonight's abysmal report, also
 
1. LIZ BACELAR is covering the story for CBS in Rio and on Monday reported the False Story that Judge Mendes was going to defer his decision on lifting the stay order on David's return order in February; she has been the first and only "american" reporter to tweet on the kidnappers' negotiations with the Brazilian gov't;
 
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:R_kOtZCbRUkJ:wap.cbsnews.com/site%3Fsid%3Dcbsnews%26pid%3Dsections.detail%26catId%3DTOP%26isBlog%3Dfalse%26storyId%3D6005329%26index%3D2+liz+bacelar+mendes&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:R_kOtZCbRUkJ:wap.cbsnews.com/site%3Fsid%3Dcbsnews%26pid%3Dsections.detail%26catId%3DTOP%26isBlog%3Dfalse%26storyId%3D6005329%26index%3D2+liz+bacelar+mendes&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
 
 
2. LIZ BACELAR also worked as a producer at the CBS Early Show for Zev Shalev, and was involved in the Harry Smith's handholding of the kidnappers and the ILLEGAL interogation of Sean that was quashed by Patricia Apy.
 
 
Why would the network of Walter Cronkite continue to employ an incompetent and arguably unethical reporter like Liz Bacelar?
 
bacelare@cbsnews.com (bacelare@cbsnews.com)

Sorry for my slowness. I didn't sleep well last night... I will tell her to talk to them about this women and the case. Also, OMG, I just found out she is connected to someone I worked with! I found she went to Columbia by searching her on Linkedin! What a small world!! ;)

Am I making any sense? I just posted before my roommate knowing two main producer for the CBS Sunday Morning News.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 08:45:48 PM
New York Times story coming out tomorrow in print:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/25/world/americas/25brazil.html?_r=1
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 08:51:40 PM
Rep. Smith words, calling in this morning into Fox + Psychologist opinion

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: greg4sean on December 24, 2009, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;60009
Rep. Smith words, calling in this morning into Fox + Psychologist opinion

:yeahthat:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: heatheram29 on December 24, 2009, 09:20:40 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;59921
Zamariola deserves a medal for this. His career will skyrocket after this, I imagine, but I hope he gets honored in some way. He is a tough fighter, and he does it with class and calm, unlike Tostes.

 
He's a pretty young guy too, isn't he? Just goes to show some people don't mature with age (Tostes), but are born that way.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: KLG on December 24, 2009, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: Rio Gringa;60005
New York Times story coming out tomorrow in print:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/25/world/americas/25brazil.html?_r=1
Thank you for posting!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: chopchop on December 24, 2009, 09:26:39 PM
Warms my heart to see David kissing his sleeping son, on Christmas Eve no less-fantastic!!!
 
What a colossal and totally avoidable family tragedy. If Bruna had only been honest with David I'm certain a suitable joint custody arrangement could have been achieved. David is so gracious, so magnanimous, that even after parading Sean in front of the Brazilian media he states on the record as having no intention of preventing the Brazilian family from seeing Sean. David could deny the Brazilian family from ever seeing Sean again and no reasonable person who knows the facts of the case would hold that decision against him. But no, instead of inflicting some well deserved pain on the Brazilian family, David makes sure that his son has relationships beyond the father son connection. This man's character is just stunning, absolutely stunning. What an example of perfect fatherhood.
 
Let's face reality, after all that has happened in the last five years, the Brazilian family doesn't deserve to have a relationship with Sean. I hope that by allowing the Brazilian family access to Sean that the healing and adjustments that David and Sean need make are not further complicated by the Brazilian family's complusive duplicity. One thing is certain; Sean no longer has to wonder what happened to his father. No more questions, only answers, only hugs and kisses. Nothing can replace that parent-child connection, the loving bond of father and son.
 
Now that the hard part of this convoluted drama is basically over, I hope that Mr. Goldman can be financially compensated by the Brazilian family in a timely manner. Along with the abduction, the Brazilian family set out to ruin David financially. Unfortunately, if history is an indicator, I don't have my hopes up. Perhaps David's compensation should be a condition of visitation, just a thought, a consideration.
 
Thankfully, this international drama is over and I am so very happy for a bright future for David and Sean, and the entire Goldman family, Bravo people it got done!!! Merry Christmas...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Wendy on December 24, 2009, 09:53:20 PM
I have just watched the latest interview with Jeff Rossen (who gets a huge round of applause from me btw!!) and David while on the plane and I agree whole heartedly with chopchop's sentiments as well.  
 
I think though we need to be careful when posting about Davids perfection.  While I personally believe he in an exceptional human being and an amazing father, we must remember that no human being is perfect....that's a pretty tall order to live up to!  He says now that he will allow the Brazilian grandmother to have a relationship with Sean but what if Sean doesn't want that?  David will protect Sean at all costs and I think that is amazing and commendable.  But others may not.  The media will be quick to jump on us calling him perfect and then be happy to watch him "fall from grace" at the slightest mis-step.  
 
I guess what I'm trying to say is, David is still a human being and a parent, and I, as a parent, know that NO parent is perfect.  That's an awful lot of pressure to put on him and Sean's relationship when they are trying to find their way back to eachother.
 
They need to heal and re-bond...out of the eye of the media.  What remains to be seen is,... will the world allow it?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: kvannuland on December 24, 2009, 09:56:52 PM
I am wondering if anyone knows WHO was raising Sean in Brazil. I am sure that the very well off abductors had a nanny or someone who took care of him. This family seems too selfish to have to give up their time to raise a young boy, only using him when they need the publicity. If there was a nanny, which would make sense to me, I believe that it would be that person that has kept Sean from turning into what his abductors wanted him to be. Anyone??
 
I am so happy today, have not wrapped a gift yet and its almost 9pm here. I just cant drag myself from this site!!! I wish all the happiness and health to the Goldman family now that their dream has come true.
 
Now we have to remember how many other children have been abducted and are in need of our help. How many other families are in need of our support, who do not have their children with them right now. To all parents here who have our children with us at home, please remember to hug and kiss them and tell them how much you love them!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Wendy on December 24, 2009, 10:08:10 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;60009
Rep. Smith words, calling in this morning into Fox + Psychologist opinion

I LOVED this interview and that psychologist! I'm sure all of us have some traumatic experience from our childhoods that we have managed to overcome...Sean is going to be perfectly fine!!  In spite of what those creatons did to him at the consulate!! SHAME ON THEM!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 10:31:15 PM
Bernie Aronson earlier on the phone with Fox News. It is an automated transcript though.

  " Story today in emotional reunion a father and son American David Goldman getting his holiday wish fulfilled today. A five -- custody battle over his son. Is over. Goldman -- nine year old Shawn are now -- route to the United  States from Brazil. This is -- image taken at the airport in Rio de Janeiro David Goldman giving everyone a thumbs up as they boarded the plane. The fight over his son ending this week after Brazil's Chief  Justice  ruled in goldmans favor ordering at Johns Brazilian family hand him over. They did so early this morning at the US consulate as you can see a very public scene. Joining us now on the phone Bernard Aronson a former assistant secretary of state -- American affairs he has been advising the Goldman family. Bernie thank you for being with us -- have it -- your lol what a happy day for -- and David to be back together the first question has to be how -- they --"

  " They're doing great they had a cheeseburger because that it -- puzzle together Sean was -- in the the shoulder and you got to speak it is. Grandmother and his grandfather. The first time in you -- in years."


                  " Who -- and well. As I said it was so public when he was turned over to his father his Brazilian  family choosing to go to the consulate rather than doing this at another location well."

  " It was stated that -- that made they had they -- pertain to go through a side entrance soon would have been totally private why and they chose to make it into immediate --"


  " Right so let me ask you with that intention always negotiated -- or what I would -- if it was their decision and it was a terrible decision."

  " Because people -- objectives this. Nine and a -- field boy to a media frenzy. Believe you -- a lot no -- and you know they they put a
Brazilian national soccer seriously on them because they wanna make this into little fight between. You Nationalists and Brazil and in the United  States  which is which is not that there was always that only a matter of -- national."

  " Don't know we saw him in -- yellow soccer shirt and the crushing crowds here he -- in nine years old going through this absolutely. Not appropriate I'm sure you believe as you're saying on -- day that he's being returned so emotional. I want to read you also speaking of emotion and David Goldman wrote a letter that that was released. And he said in the last line it really struck me I hope the momentum keeps growing. And the attention does not -- because there are more fathers and mothers and children to reunite. God bless you all David. In your expertise. It seems appropriate to ask you whether or not the laws failed. This father and son and whether or not you would expect any changes could really made."

  " The law has failed this father and thousands of fathers and mothers and grandfathers and grandmothers and cousins of these that the kids. There's 2800. It's like this globally there are still 64 left in Brazil. And the system -- trying to bring these kids back is totally broken and does not work and has to be radically change through legislation. And hopefully. This terrible stories and targeted David Coleman in -- settlement Stanley had to -- to serve as a wake up call. To the congress and the executive branch that we have to reform. The way in which this treaty --"

                  " Burning Charles Brazilian  family says they won't appeal the ruling do you expect that David will take any action against Brazil."

  " No he has no ill will -- Brazil and effectiveness the last. Several weeks he's been very heartened by this enormous. Outpouring of support among ordinary Brazilians. When they understood what this story was all about the family tried to it. Manipulate nationalism and turn this into an American verses of Brazil story and David correctly that this is about a father and his son and wants. The majority opinion that you understood that they actually rallied to his side but I think with David Goldman and others involved in this case will do. Just try to. Convince the congress that they need to pass legislation. That gives the State Department real tools. To defend these left behind parents and return -- abducted children."


                  " You bring up a very valid point there are many families in this situation and even the secretary of state HillaryClinton  tried to intervene here. Briefing and so much."

  " And so did the president but it shouldn't take that -- return an American kid who is abducted excellent point country. Bernard -- and thank you very much thank you have them."
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 10:34:34 PM
Quote from: Wendy;60038
I LOVED this interview and that psychologist! I'm sure all of us have some traumatic experience from our childhoods that we have managed to overcome...Sean is going to be perfectly fine!! In spite of what those creatons did to him at the consulate!! SHAME ON THEM!!

And shame on CBS for adding to the MELODRAMA.  I had to stop watching half-way through.  It's Christmas and Sean and David are together.  Good night all.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: mfer on December 24, 2009, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: Wendy;60031
I have just watched the latest interview with Jeff Rossen (who gets a huge round of applause from me btw!!) and David while on the plane and I agree whole heartedly with chopchop's sentiments as well.  
 
I think though we need to be careful when posting about Davids perfection.  While I personally believe he in an exceptional human being and an amazing father, we must remember that no human being is perfect....that's a pretty tall order to live up to!  He says now that he will allow the Brazilian grandmother to have a relationship with Sean but what if Sean doesn't want that?  David will protect Sean at all costs and I think that is amazing and commendable.  But others may not.  The media will be quick to jump on us calling him perfect and then be happy to watch him "fall from grace" at the slightest mis-step.  
 
I guess what I'm trying to say is, David is still a human being and a parent, and I, as a parent, know that NO parent is perfect.  That's an awful lot of pressure to put on him and Sean's relationship when they are trying to find their way back to eachother.
 
They need to heal and re-bond...out of the eye of the media.  What remains to be seen is,... will the world allow it?

I think David said in time & if that is what Sean wants & what is best for him then he wouldn't deny Sean knowing the family.  I am not worried about the Braz. fam if David allows them some access to Sean.  David has great input & will do what is best for Sean.

Not sure who called him perfect but I for one do not think that.  I do however think he is a model father imperfections & all.  As Wendy says no one is perfect.  He has & will make mistakes.  What we all know here is that he is a great father who loves his son.  That is the beauty of him & Sean.

Wendy isn't this awesome!  We have been posting here for a long time together & we have finally witnessed the day Sean is home.  :hug:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ChristineS on December 24, 2009, 10:44:05 PM
from The Bergen Record in North Jersey:
 
http://www.northjersey.com/news/opinions/80043627.html
The Record: The homecoming
Thursday, December 24, 2009
The Record
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SEAN GOLDMAN is coming home.
The 9-year-old boy, who has been at the center of an international, high-stakes custody battle, is expected to be reunited today with his father, David.
It's been a long fight. It has taken five years, more than 10 trips to Rio de Janiero, the intervention of U.S. lawmakers and the iron will of a heartsick father, but it has been worth it. Because in a matter of days, we hope, David and Sean will begin the careful task of rebuilding their relationship. And they will have the luxury of doing so while living under the same roof, in Tinton Falls, New Jersey.
The story is part telenovela, part Dickensian tale: David married Bruna Bianchi in Eatontown in 1999. Sean was born the next year. When Sean was 4 years old, his mother and grandparents took him on a trip to their native Brazil. David expected his wife and son to return two weeks later. According to David, Bruna called him the night they arrived to say she was divorcing him, and if he wanted to see Sean again he would have to sign over custody to her. David says he didn't sign any papers.
Bruna remarried in Brazil, and Sean lived with her and her second husband. Last year, Bruna died in childbirth. Sean remained with his stepfather, despite repeated attempts by David to get Sean back. He was the only living parent, David argued, and his son should rightfully live with him. Sean's stepfamily and grandparents disagreed.
The custody battle wore on. David's lawyers and the U.S. government have long argued that Sean must be returned under the Hague Convention on child abduction, which both countries signed. The convention calls for a "prompt return" of the child, and for the custody decisions to be made in the country in which the child originally lived. But as the case foundered, his hopes were dashed. Still, he never gave up.
Then Tuesday happened. Brazil's Supreme Court chief justice ruled that Sean must be returned to his father. The ruling upheld last week's decision by the federal court. On Wednesday, Bruna's family was ordered to release Sean by 9 a.m. today. The family said it will obey the order.
We wish David did not have to spend months and years without Sean. We are sorry a boy has missed precious years with his father. We are also sorry for Bruna's parents, who will give up a grandchild they love. And we regret that lawmakers needed to get involved, although their steadfast involvement was heartening. Politicians are more than conduits for federal funding and pothole repair. They are the people we turn to when there is nowhere else to go. In David's case, they delivered.
Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., went so far as to hold up a trade bill that allows countries to export goods duty-free to the U.S. Brazil stood to lose $2.75 billion. Lautenberg stalled the bill until Tuesday night, after the court decision. Earlier this year, Lautenberg and Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., wrote a Senate resolution calling for Brazil to send Sean home. And they sent a letter to Brazil's president, urging him to help in the case.
U.S. Rep. Chris Smith, R-Hamilton, has made at least two trips to Brazil with David, including this last one.
"It is long past time for Sean to come home," Smith said last week.
If all goes as it should, Tinton Falls' population will increase by one. And David Goldman will have his son back.

SEAN GOLDMAN is coming home.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 11:35:29 PM
Brazil's Record TV sent its correspondent to Tinton Falls.

 According to the report, Barry Goldman said that he told Sean that he loves him and that they will restart their life together. Ellie Goldman says that Sean sounded happy and that his re-adaptation will be easier than most people think. He speaks good English and has cousins of the same age here. They say that David will consult with psychologists and the Courts to decide if Sean should have contact with the Brazilian family. Reporter asks what do they have to say to the Brazilian family. Ellie seems to say that they must feel what they felt when they took Sean away. The reporter changes that to "as we felt during the last 5 years" :madgo: Reporter then explains that Tinton Falls is a tranquil and nice place and only 90 mins from NYC, and shows some guy bringing a present.

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Luc on December 24, 2009, 11:40:54 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;60083
Brazil's Record TV sent its correspondent to Tinton Falls.

 Barry Goldman says that he told Sean that he loves and that they will restart their life together. Ellie Goldman says that Sean sounded happy and that his re-adaptation will be easier than most people think. He speaks good English and has cousins of the same age here. They say that David will consult with psychologists and the Courts to decide if Sean should have contact with the Brazilian family. Reporter asks what do they have to say to the Brazilian family. Ellie seems to say that they must feel what they felt when they took Sean away. The reporter changes that to "in the last 5 years" :madgo: Reporter then explains that Tinton Falls is a tranquil and nice place and only 90 mins from NYC.

Nice!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 24, 2009, 11:43:05 PM
BTW, Secr. Clinton made a mistake when she wished David and Sean the best on their first holiday season together in five years...

Their last holiday season together was actually in 2003. Six years ago...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Chuckles on December 24, 2009, 11:53:12 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;60086
BTW, Secr. Clinton made a mistake when she wished David and Sean the best on their first holiday season together in five years...

Their last holiday season together was actually in 2003. Six years ago...
Dude... it's Xmas eve.  Can we drop the political BS for a day?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 11:53:32 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;60083
Brazil's Record TV sent its correspondent to Tinton Falls.

 According to the report, Barry Goldman said that he told Sean that he loves him and that they will restart their life together. Ellie Goldman says that Sean sounded happy and that his re-adaptation will be easier than most people think. He speaks good English and has cousins of the same age here. They say that David will consult with psychologists and the Courts to decide if Sean should have contact with the Brazilian family. Reporter asks what do they have to say to the Brazilian family. Ellie seems to say that they must feel what they felt when they took Sean away. The reporter changes that to "as we felt during the last 5 years" :madgo: Reporter then explains that Tinton Falls is a tranquil and nice place and only 90 mins from NYC, and shows some guy bringing a present.


Good coverage from Record. Thumbs up! I have to say that Eli and I burst out laughing when they "translated" Ellie's statement to "he speaks good English and has cousins, etc" when she was actually saying "He didn't give us any information." Lol.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: Chuckles;60090
Dude... it's Xmas eve.  Can we drop the political BS for a day?

"Dude," chill out.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: :: ultranol :: on December 24, 2009, 11:56:28 PM
Estadao is reporting that Brazil and US returned the same number of children to one another: seven.

http://www.estadao.com.br/estadaodehoje/20091225/not_imp486873,0.php

They also say that from 2003 to 2009, 53 children illegally retained in Brazil were returned to their countries.

Is this right?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Rio Gringa on December 24, 2009, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: :: ultranol ::;60093
Estadao is reporting that Brazil and US returned the same number of children to one another: seven.

http://www.estadao.com.br/estadaodehoje/20091225/not_imp486873,0.php

They also say that from 2003 to 2009, 53 children illegally retained in Brazil were returned to their countries.

Is this right?

The number they use for the US is negotiated returns, not Hague court-ordered returns. Not sure about the other countries, though.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: mfer on December 25, 2009, 12:02:25 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-12-23-brazil-custody_N.htm?poe=HFMostPopular&loc=interstitialskip

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — A 9-year-old boy and his father arrived Thursday night in Florida from Brazil, marking the end of a five-year custody battle that spanned two continents.  Sean Goldman and his father, David Goldman of Tinton Falls (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Tinton+Falls), N.J., landed in Orlando on a private jet chartered by NBC. Most media were kept far away.
  They reunited earlier in the day in Rio de Janeiro (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/Towns,+Cities,+Counties/Rio+de+Janeiro), ending an epic battle that pitted Sean's father against the boy's Brazilian stepfather, who had cared for Sean since his mother died last year. The dispute reached the highest levels of the U.S. and Brazilian governments and strained relations between the two countries.
 "It is now time for our new beginning, the rebirth of our family at such a special time of the year," the boy's father, David Goldman of Tinton Falls, N.J., wrote in a letter read to reporters after his departure.
 "Today, the abduction has ended," said Rep. Chris Smith, a New Jersey Republican who was with Sean's father in Brazil and supported him.
   
But the boy's maternal grandmother, Silvana Bianchi, said: "My heart is empty and broken because our love is missing. To take the boy on Christmas Day is a heinous crime."
 The last act in the drama played out partly in public view. Wearing a gold Brazil Olympic T-shirt, a tearful Sean was walked a block to the American consulate, surrounded by his stepfather, other members of the family and their lawyer.
 Once spotted by the more than 100 reporters and cameramen waiting for their arrival, the group had to drag, shove and push its way about 50 yards to the consulate's front door.
 "I was disappointed to see him marched through the streets like that," Smith said.
 Orna Blum, the U.S. Embassy spokeswoman, said the Brazilian family was offered the same secure entrance to the consulate garage that Goldman used, which would have shielded the child from view, and that she had no idea why they decided to walk the boy a block through Rio's streets.
 Smith, however, said the Brazilian family's lawyer told him it was their way of protesting the handover.
 Once inside, the mop-haired boy calmed down after a few minutes, Smith said. Father and son were reunited in private and were soon eating hamburgers and talking, the congressman added.
 "Once he was with his dad they were smiling, with their arms around one another," Smith said. "They looked just like best buddies."
 Smith would not say where they were headed, only that they wanted to "cocoon" somewhere other than New Jersey for a while.
 Goldman fought a long battle against one of Rio's best-known legal families to regain custody of his son.
 Sean had lived in Brazil since Goldman's ex-wife, Bruna Bianchi, brought him to her native country for what was supposed to be a two-week vacation in 2004. She stayed, divorced Goldman and remarried, and Goldman began legal efforts to get Sean back.
 After Bianchi died last year in childbirth, her husband, Paulo Lins (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Paulo+Lins) e Silva, a prominent divorce attorney, continued the legal fight and won temporary custody.
 On Tuesday, Brazil's chief justice finally cleared the way for Goldman to take his son home.
 Goldman had said this week that if he won, he would allow the Brazilian family to visit Sean. But the Brazilian family's lawyer, Sergio Tostes, said no visitation agreement had been reached.
 "It is inhumane that he left without a guarantee that his grandmother would be able to see him in the United States," Tostes said.
 Now, Goldman said, is the time for Sean's American family to get to know him.
 "Please know that my love and the rest of Sean's family's love for him knows no boundaries," he wrote in his letter. "We will go to the ends of the Earth to protect him and shower him with every ounce of love that we have."
 When the boy's handover was blocked last week, the U.S. Senate put a hold on a trade deal worth about $2.75 billion a year to Brazil. President Barack Obama (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/People/Politicians,+Government+Officials,+Strategists/Executive/Barack+Obama) also discussed the matter with his Brazilian counterpart, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/People/Politicians,+Government+Officials,+Strategists/World+Leaders/Luiz+Inacio+Lula+da+Silva).
 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/People/Politicians,+Government+Officials,+Strategists/Executive/Hillary+Rodham+Clinton), who had also rallied behind Goldman, said she was thrilled that father and son had been reunited.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Chuckles on December 25, 2009, 12:03:29 AM
Quote from: :: ultranol ::;60093
Estadao is reporting that Brazil and US returned the same number of children to one another: seven.

http://www.estadao.com.br/estadaodehoje/20091225/not_imp486873,0.php

They also say that from 2003 to 2009, 53 children illegally retained in Brazil were returned to their countries.

Is this right?
No... They are counting negotiated returns, not court ordered.  Aronson's testimony at the Lantos Com. hearing put it plainly: Brazil can't be found non-compliant because they have never had a court-ordered return (till today! yay!).

- edit - RG beat me to it...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jl2saint on December 25, 2009, 03:02:18 AM
Quote from: mfer;60095
"It is inhumane that he left without a guarantee that his grandmother would be able to see him in the United States," Tostes said.
 
Inhumane is stealing him in the 1st place............and then not allowing Dave to have any rights to his own son whatsoever.....Then lying to the courts.....then reabducting him after Bruna's death and continuing to block Dave out of Sean's life.....and subjecting Sean to psychological abuse....then.... ( well, we all know the story ):DeadHorse2:
 
I hope Silvana got on a plane and flew to NJ expecting to be able to see Sean...........
 
Because Sean ain't there "goofy".............:D
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Audax on December 25, 2009, 04:16:59 AM
Quote from: mfer;60095
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-12-23-brazil-custody_N.htm?poe=HFMostPopular&loc=interstitialskip


But the boy's maternal grandmother, Silvana Bianchi, said: "My heart is empty and broken because our love is missing. To take the boy on Christmas Day is a heinous crime."
 


 Goldman had said this week that if he won, he would allow the Brazilian family to visit Sean. But the Brazilian family's lawyer, Sergio Tostes, said no visitation agreement had been reached.
 "It is inhumane that he left without a guarantee that his grandmother would be able to see him in the United States," Tostes said.


- and calling David on Fathers Day to tell him that you kidnapped his son apparently is not a crime :mad2:

- David has said several times on camera that he will allow them to have contact with Sean. That he will not do to them what they did to him and Sean for over 5 years. Unlike you, Nonna, David is honest. He is a man of his word. So Testes, shut up already. Stop being a sore loser.:mad2:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: faeryquene on December 25, 2009, 05:49:43 AM
Quote from: jl2saint;60113
Quote from: mfer;60095
"It is inhumane that he left without a guarantee that his grandmother would be able to see him in the United States," Tostes said.
 
Inhumane is stealing him in the 1st place............and then not allowing Dave to have any rights to his own son whatsoever.....Then lying to the courts.....then reabducting him after Bruna's death and continuing to block Dave out of Sean's life.....and subjecting Sean to psychological abuse....then.... ( well, we all know the story ):DeadHorse2:
 
I hope Silvana got on a plane and flew to NJ expecting to be able to see Sean...........
 
Because Sean ain't there "goofy".............:D

:yeahthat:
 
That side of the family wrote the book on being cruel-inhumane-they should now.
 
Tostes is getting on my last nerves.:cloud:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Pepe on December 25, 2009, 06:46:47 AM
José Dirceu, a former member of Lula´s government that was ousted in a recent mega corruption scandal wrote a very disgusting article about the case today at Globo´s Noblat blog.
 
http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/noblat/posts/2009/12/25/o-caso-sean-as-pressoes-dos-eua-252569.asp
 
Readers seems to be infuriated. 100% of the comments are against him. Bellow one of the comments:
 
"Que autoridade moral tem este senhor para falar sobre um tema espinhoso como esse? Escreva Dirceu, sobre mensaleiros e dólares na cueca!!!! "
 
"What moral authority that you have to talk about a thorny issue like this? Write Dirceu on mensaleiros and dollars in underwear!!"
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 25, 2009, 07:18:29 AM
New Today show this X-mas morning. More quotes from plane interview but no new info, a couple new pictures of Sean smiling and sleeping. A cute part was when they were watching Sean sleep and David said he hoped Sean didn't sleep the whole flight because then he'd be up all night and he (David) is exhausted. Jeff Rossen responded with "spoken like a true father" and David just looked so happy and proud :-)  Merry Christmas
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: cm on December 25, 2009, 07:30:25 AM
I watched the clip of David on the plane last night. When I saw him kiss Sean on his head...I clapped and cried like a baby. I missed everything else.

My husband knew I had been following and working hard to see them together. I turned to him and he had tears in his eyes.

This reunion has touched the world.

I am looking forward to working just as hard to see that all LBP's are reunited with their children.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: DB4 on December 25, 2009, 08:10:24 AM
Quote from: Eccaka;60128
New Today show this X-mas morning. More quotes from plane interview but no new info, a couple new pictures of Sean smiling and sleeping. A cute part was when they were watching Sean sleep and David said he hoped Sean didn't sleep the whole flight because then he'd be up all night and he (David) is exhausted. Jeff Rossen responded with "spoken like a true father" and David just looked so happy and proud :-) Merry Christmas

Oh, I missed the Today Show - opening Christmas presents.
 
Any links yet?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: caique mateus on December 25, 2009, 08:28:32 AM
Quote from: Pepe;60127

José Dirceu, a former member of Lula´s government that was ousted in a recent mega corruption scandal wrote a very disgusting article about the case today at Globo´s Noblat blog.
 

José Dirceu is the scum of the scum and Noblat's blog was the one who spread the news about the Brazilian lady who was "attacked" in Switzerland (she faked the whole thing).
 
I believe that many people who might still be in doubt about this story will side with David just because José Dirceu is on the other side.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Grace on December 25, 2009, 09:09:43 AM
People, I am trying not to disturb you all with all the negative press from Brazil, especially from all the deceased terrorist aunt supporters! They are twisting this case in a terrifying way, throwing the population against the USA, and Globo and other media outlets are giving them air time!! It's absolutely disgusting what's happening in Brazil right now coming from that dreadful spiteful family. Just watching the Globo reporters accusing the US of denying entry to grandma and to their car to enter the consulate was difficult to watch! Also criticizing how the American media is exposing Sean's face (how can they forget the Epoca magazine cover)? Bo1, Belleizel, Andre Felipe, JuliRosi and all our supporters in Brazil, you are probably as disgusted as I am! They really turned on the xenophobia. They also have a group attacking us at the Brazil com Z blog, spewing their venom. Sore losers! But the good news is: the population ain't buying it. The comments are majorly pro-David.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: malalves on December 25, 2009, 09:24:34 AM
José Dirceu should be behind bars! Family friends are spewing their venom in many brazilian media outlets. Watching yesterday's jornal nacional almost drove mad, they gave plenty of time to silvana's and tostes lies and just a brief mention to what David's lawyers said about the reunion.
Despicable losers. Sociopaths, terrorists ("guta" and dirceu) - thank God Sean is now safe, far away from this sort of people.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Grace on December 25, 2009, 09:26:25 AM
Yes, Sean was in one unhealthy environment!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: jl2saint on December 25, 2009, 09:27:17 AM
Quote from: Grace;60151
People, I am trying not to disturb you all with all the negative press from Brazil, especially from all the deceased terrorist aunt supporters! They are twisting this case in a terrifying way, throwing the population against the USA, and Globo and other media outlets are giving them air time!! It's absolutely disgusting what's happening in Brazil right now coming from that dreadful spiteful family. Just watching the Globo reporters accusing the US of denying entry to grandma and to their car to enter the consulate was difficult to watch! Also criticizing how the American media is exposing Sean's face (how can they forget the Epoca magazine cover)? Bo1, Belleizel, Andre Felipe, JuliRosi and all our supporters in Brazil, you are probably as disgusted as I am! They really turned on the xenophobia. They also have a group attacking us at the Brazil com Z blog, spewing their venom. Sore losers! But the good news is: the population ain't buying it. The comments are majorly pro-David.

While that is disturbing, I an just so happy that they can't hurt Sean anymore.........
 
He is safe w/ his dad and family...........:cheer:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 25, 2009, 09:33:55 AM
Quote from: Grace;60151
People, I am trying not to disturb you all with all the negative press from Brazil, especially from all the deceased terrorist aunt supporters! They are twisting this case in a terrifying way, throwing the population against the USA, and Globo and other media outlets are giving them air time!! It's absolutely disgusting what's happening in Brazil right now coming from that dreadful spiteful family. Just watching the Globo reporters accusing the US of denying entry to grandma and to their car to enter the consulate was difficult to watch! Also criticizing how the American media is exposing Sean's face (how can they forget the Epoca magazine cover)? Bo1, Belleizel, Andre Felipe, JuliRosi and all our supporters in Brazil, you are probably as disgusted as I am! They really turned on the xenophobia. They also have a group attacking us at the Brazil com Z blog, spewing their venom. Sore losers! But the good news is: the population ain't buying it. The comments are majorly pro-David.


This is very sad... Someday Sean will do some research about all of this and see what really went down. He'll know the truth as it happened and know that what they are saying now is not the truth. It is so much better that Sean is away from all the bitterness, selfishness, anger and hatred and is now surrounded by LOVE.

I am confident that there are far more smart, logical, compassionate people in Brazil than there are psycho, hate mongering people. Good always wins out in the end
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: clickmodelagent on December 25, 2009, 09:36:19 AM
:clapping:
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM.

Thank you for all of your awesome efforts. What an outstanding group of individuals.

BRAVO TO EACH OF YOU!!!!!!:clapping::clapping::clapping::cheer:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: malalves on December 25, 2009, 09:37:12 AM
The problem is that there are still several people with their children in Brazil. During the last few days opinion in Brazil moved in favor of David. It would be great that other parents also benefit from this tide of support.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Eccaka on December 25, 2009, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: malalves;60163
It would be great that other parents also benefit from this tide of support.


Brazil's obligation to abide by the Hague Treaty was just affirmed by the top official of the Supreme Court  and by the AG. In theory it should not be difficult for a lawyer to walk into court, present their evidence of a Hague dispute and get these kids home. I sincerely hope that as a result of this case, the rest of the cases are quickly concluded and the children are returned...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: malalves on December 25, 2009, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: Eccaka;60165
Brazil's obligation to abide by the Hague Treaty was just affirmed by the top official of the Supreme Court  and by the AG. In theory it should not be difficult for a lawyer to walk into court, present their evidence of a Hague dispute and get these kids home. I sincerely hope that as a result of this case, the rest of the cases are quickly concluded and the children are returned...


I wish things go this way. However, all the twists and turns of David's case are still the grim reality to other parents. I pray that now things will not be that difficult to other parents but this is not yet the reality of such cases in Brazil.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: kathryn on December 25, 2009, 10:02:04 AM
Quote from: DB4;60138
Oh, I missed the Today Show - opening Christmas presents.
 
Any links yet?

 
 
Can someone please provide Jeff Rossums interview from last night/yesterday as well as the today show this morning please -I have missed them all
 
thanks Kat
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: margie on December 25, 2009, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: kathryn;60169
Can someone please provide Jeff Rossums interview from last night/yesterday as well as the today show this morning please -I have missed them all
 
thanks Kat

Here are the Links:

www.msnbc.com
click on "Today"
click on 'Boy, American Dad Rekindling Relationship"
  For yesterday:
Scroll down on the same page to:
Video Launch with them boarding the plane - "David Goldman Reunited with Son"

Merry Christmas,

Margie
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Audax on December 25, 2009, 11:15:43 AM
Quote from: kathryn;60169
Can someone please provide Jeff Rossums interview from last night/yesterday as well as the today show this morning please -I have missed them all
 
thanks Kat


Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 25, 2009, 11:19:11 AM
That should be the Today Show piece...

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Audax on December 25, 2009, 11:19:32 AM

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 25, 2009, 11:28:04 AM
And this is the previously posted piece of yesterday evening...


 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032072)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: margie on December 25, 2009, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;60009
Rep. Smith words, calling in this morning into Fox + Psychologist opinion


Thanks for posting this video from Fox News. THANK YOU FOX NEWS FOR THIS GOOD REPORT. The child psychologist did a good job I think. I almost didn't want to listen to an other psychologist's report.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Margie
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Wendy on December 25, 2009, 11:41:10 AM
Quote from: mfer;60051

Wendy isn't this awesome! We have been posting here for a long time together & we have finally witnessed the day Sean is home. :hug:

 
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: :: ultranol :: on December 25, 2009, 12:13:09 PM
Quote from: Chuckles;60096
No... They are counting negotiated returns, not court ordered.  Aronson's testimony at the Lantos Com. hearing put it plainly: Brazil can't be found non-compliant because they have never had a court-ordered return (till today! yay!).

- edit - RG beat me to it...


Yeah, that's what I've imagined.

Sean is the first one to be returned under Hague, right? Because the court order cited Hague.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 25, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
More crap from the Columbia Bull-Shitting corporation...

P.S. It is their first Holidays together since 2003! That's six years, not five...

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Wendy on December 25, 2009, 12:21:12 PM
what a moron!!  the nerve to speak about the greaving THAT family is doing! Frankly I could care less about their grief.  And Sean was most certainly NOT clutching that creep.  Did you see how Testes had his claws on Seans shoulder???  Poor kid is gonna have nightmares about that monster for a while I'm sure!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 25, 2009, 12:29:34 PM
What time of low lifers run CBS News??

I am thinking now, wasn't the guy who tried to blackmail David Letterman, a senior producer at CBS News?  And what about that CBS producer Liz Bacelar?  A Brazilian friend of the kidnappers pulling strings behind the scenes??
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 25, 2009, 12:37:11 PM
Portuguese TV has some images of their arrival at the Galaxy FBO in Orlando.

Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 25, 2009, 12:43:23 PM
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/12/134047.htm

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
 
Washington, DC
 
December 24, 2009


I am thrilled that 9-year-old Sean Goldman was reunited with his father David Goldman earlier today in Rio de Janeiro and that they are flying home to New Jersey. I want to thank everyone who helped bring this long process to a successful conclusion, including a number of members of Congress and many concerned parties both here and in Brazil. We also appreciate the assistance and cooperation of the Government of Brazil in upholding its obligations under the Hague Convention on International Child Abduction. I offer my warmest wishes for father and son as they celebrate their first holiday season together in five years.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: siajeannie on December 25, 2009, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: Grace;60151
People, I am trying not to disturb you all with all the negative press from Brazil, especially from all the deceased terrorist aunt supporters! They are twisting this case in a terrifying way, throwing the population against the USA, and Globo and other media outlets are giving them air time!! It's absolutely disgusting what's happening in Brazil right now coming from that dreadful spiteful family. Just watching the Globo reporters accusing the US of denying entry to grandma and to their car to enter the consulate was difficult to watch! Also criticizing how the American media is exposing Sean's face (how can they forget the Epoca magazine cover)? Bo1, Belleizel, Andre Felipe, JuliRosi and all our supporters in Brazil, you are probably as disgusted as I am! They really turned on the xenophobia. They also have a group attacking us at the Brazil com Z blog, spewing their venom. Sore losers! But the good news is: the population ain't buying it. The comments are majorly pro-David.


Grace, I am so sad, so disturbed by this. :mad2: I stopped watching/reading the Brazilian Media for my own sake...  but I can't forget (I will NOT forget) what I have seen... I can't even begin to say what impact that had on me. I've know for a good while now how much they lie (not very different from here) but I had some respect...  It's all gone now! It will be SO HARD to read anything from Brazil now and trust. My trust level is below 0.

BUT, YOU ARE RIGHT, the good news is all that matter. Today and yesterday (and the days to come) are happy days. :cheer:

We should focus on the beautiful side, the side of LOVE. Father and son finally together. I cannot say how beautiful was to watch the plane taking off (although I wish I had put the disgusting Portuguese coverage on mute the first time), the front cover picture on the Brazilian paper Estadao (where I saw it for the first time) with David waving and Sean freely boarding the Embraer plane, the interview with the NBC journalist where David gently kiss his son while he sleeps, and, finally, today these wonderful images of David and Sean happy.

THESE PICTURES SAY IT ALL. IF ANYTHING, WE NEED TO PROMOTE THE IMAGES AND VIDEOS. Most Brazilians are already on David's side. :clapping::clapping::clapping:
They know what is right. The vast majority of people can tell when they are being deceived and lied to. THE TRUTH AS THE LOVE WILL PREVAIL, and that's my hope and what gives me hope.

But, make no mistake... I AM NOT FORGETTING this. This will have a price. The Brazilian Media, especially, GLOBO and CBS will pay a price, sooner or later. It is called KARMA, life's law of reciprocity, and with a bit of our help, Brazilians and Americans alike, it will be sooner rather than later. That's all I will say for now....

Merry Christmas all! Happy Holidays, Grace!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: nina on December 25, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
Family Brazilian Sean will ask for government assistance to ensure visits

'The time it is released and caught the plane going in search of him, "says grandmother.
Supreme Court suspended injunction obtained by the boy's grandmother.

Aluízio Freire Do G1, in Rio


The grandmother of Sean Silvana Bianchi shows the notebook with messages from the boy. (Photo: Aluízio Freire / G1)

Attorney Sergio Tostes, representing the Brazilian family of Sean Goldman, aged 9, who went to the United States with his biological father, David Goldman, said in an interview on Friday (25) to search the Brazilian government to ensure family members visiting the boy abroad.

 

"We want them to be given the same rights that were given to Mr David Goldman here. So let us look for the Brazilian government. If we met, it would be unthinkable, let's hire a lawyer in New York, "said Tostes, who claimed that there were several irregularities in the process of transition in which the boy was handed over to the father.

 

The interview was held in the Chambers, which were also the grandparents, Silvana Bianchi and Raimundo Ribeiro, and Uncle Luca Bianchi. In an atmosphere of emotion, interrupting the speech several times with sobs, Silvana said his main concern is to ensure the right to visit her grandson. "The time that is released, caught the plane and go in search of him."


The stepfather did not accompany the family in the interview. "He's devastated. We had Christmas. We spent the night looking at each other acara. Neither wanted to call television, "said Silvana. She soon found that his father, Sean asked him to enter a course to speak Portuguese. David agreed. Sean, 4 years already spoke English, but lost contact with the language and want to continue expressing themselves in Portuguese.

 

On Thursday (24), one of the lawyers of David Ricardo Zamariola, said father and son will spend Christmas in Disney parks in Orlando. Sean was given to the biological father on the morning of Wednesday (23), fulfilling a court order.


In an interview with television network NBC the U.S., which chartered the plane to bring father and son to the United States, David Goldman said, "over time" will allow Sean's grandmother visit the United States: "It will take some time, but I will not deny it and find it," said Goldman.


According to the NBC reporter who accompanied David and Sean's trip, the pair played a lot during the nine-hour flight from Rio de Janeiro to Orlando, Florida. Sean was quiet and slept for a long time, the reporter said, criticizing the chaotic arrival of the boy with his family to the Brazilian consulate, where father and son reunited.

 

The report heard the child psychologist Harold Koplewicz, who said the first month of Sean in the United States will be a difficult adjustment, but that children have a great capacity to adapt. David also told NBC that kept the room Sean at his home in New Jersey exactly as it was five years ago, when the boy was brought to Brazil.

Arrival in U.S.

The boy Sean and his father came to Orlando on the evening of Thursday (24). The television network NBC, which paid for the transport of two by private jet, exhibited tonight live participation of the reporter who accompanied them during the flight.

 

Sean embarked with the biological father to the United States around 11:45 am on Thursday at Tom Jobim Airport. They traveled on charter flight. The Brazilian grandmother, Silvana Bianchi, asked to go along the aircraft, but according to family lawyer Bianchi, Sergio Tostes, the request was denied by the U.S. government.

Grandmother vents

"My heart is empty and is missing the party because our love," said Silvana Bianchi, the maternal grandmother of Sean, after the departure of the home with the biological father. The father, in turn, issued a letter in which he highlighted the "rebirth of the family in a very special time of year."

 

She said the boy was scared of being harassed by the press this morning to get the American Consulate, in downtown Rio's grandmother said she feared that Sean was trampled.

 

The U.S. government, on the other hand, criticized the overexposure of the boy by his family on arrival at the Brazilian consulate in Rio "The grandmother, the lawyer, the family, stepfather and siblings Sean had full access to the consulate for the garage, but they refused . The doctor [Sergio] Tostes [family lawyer], when we did not need it, said they were free to do whatever they wanted, "said Orna Blum, a spokesman for the U.S. Embassy.

:shitstorm3::DeadHorse2:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: nina on December 25, 2009, 03:00:23 PM
"We want them to be given the same rights that were given to Mr David Goldman here.

???? WHAT?????? They make me sick!!


The stepfather did not accompany the family in the interview. "He's devastated. We had Christmas. We spent the night looking at each other acara. Neither wanted to call television, "said Silvana.


OR ENJOYING XMAS DAY ???

She soon found that his father, Sean asked him to enter a course to speak Portuguese. David agreed. Sean, 4 years already spoke English, but lost contact with the language and want to continue expressing themselves in Portuguese.

%**$#%ˆ&


This is the worst mother-in-law....grandmother, person, woman, I have ever seen. She is unbelievable selfish!!!! LET SEAN BE HAPPY!!!!

:burn::burn::burn::burn::burn::burn:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Priss on December 25, 2009, 03:12:15 PM
By her continue comments, which are negative, I personally do not believe she will be a positive influence on helping father and son rebuild their relationship.  But I'm no psychiatrist, just a personal opinion.

Then again let her keep having contact with Sean, Grandma being negative about dad and dad being positive about the Brazilian family and Sean will figure out on his own who is the bad one here.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ocrts on December 25, 2009, 03:38:45 PM
"We want them to be given the same rights that were given to Mr David Goldman here. So let us look for the Brazilian government."

:burn::madgo::mad2::burn::madgo::mad2::burn::madgo::mad2:

Hmm.  Ok, give us a call in 4 1/2 years and you can have a one hour supervised visit.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Jackie in Upstate NY on December 25, 2009, 03:47:58 PM
NONE OF THIS IS WORTHY OF A REACTION OR RESPONSE - SIMPLY IGNORE
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: vivienne on December 25, 2009, 03:52:43 PM
Quote
She soon found that his father, Sean asked him to enter a course to speak Portuguese. David agreed. Sean, 4 years already spoke English, but lost contact with the language and want to continue expressing themselves in Portuguese.

The one positive thing out of this whole news story - shows David is flexible and willing to help Sean remain bilingual.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Audax on December 25, 2009, 05:27:51 PM
We want them to be given the same rights that were given to Mr David Goldman here.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually support Testes on this one! They absolutely can enjoy the same rights they gave David. OK, it's Dec 2009 now. We'll cut you off until May 2014 and then we'll allow you 1 hour of supervised visit with Sean every 6 months...
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Genenut on December 25, 2009, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: Audax;60333
We want them to be given the same rights that were given to Mr David Goldman here.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually support Testes on this one! They absolutely can enjoy the same rights they gave David. OK, it's Dec 2009 now. We'll cut you off until May 2014 and then we'll allow you 1 hour of supervised visit with Sean every 6 months...

:yeahthat:   (http://www.buddy-icons.info/content/smileys/yahoo_rotfl.gif)(http://www.buddy-icons.info/content/smileys/yahoo_rotfl.gif)(http://www.buddy-icons.info/content/smileys/yahoo_rotfl.gif)
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Colie on December 25, 2009, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: Audax;60333
We want them to be given the same rights that were given to Mr David Goldman here.
 
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually support Testes on this one! They absolutely can enjoy the same rights they gave David. OK, it's Dec 2009 now. We'll cut you off until May 2014 and then we'll allow you 1 hour of supervised visit with Sean every 6 months...

I agree 100%!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bill33 on December 25, 2009, 05:53:28 PM
Quote from: ocrts;60282
"We want them to be given the same rights that were given to Mr David Goldman here. So let us look for the Brazilian government."

:burn::madgo::mad2::burn::madgo::mad2::burn::madgo::mad2:

Hmm.  Ok, give us a call in 4 1/2 years and you can have a one hour supervised visit.


:yeahthat:
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 25, 2009, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Audax;60333
We want them to be given the same rights that were given to Mr David Goldman here.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually support Testes on this one! They absolutely can enjoy the same rights they gave David. OK, it's Dec 2009 now. We'll cut you off until May 2014 and then we'll allow you 1 hour of supervised visit with Sean every 6 months...


Someone should shout that from a bull horn outside their compound.  They will get their few minutes of fame, and be laughed out of court should any US attorney be stupid enough to represent them.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Jackie in Upstate NY on December 25, 2009, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: Bill33;60362
:yeahthat:
That really is kinda funny  ... ok - so how long will it take to end - David and Sean have suffered more than enough - they just shouldn't have to deal with all that much for a while
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: lovellboys on December 25, 2009, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: Jackie in Upstate NY;60372
That really is kinda funny  ... ok - so how long will it take to end - David and Sean have suffered more than enough - they just shouldn't have to deal with all that much for a while


David is doing the right thing by keeping Sean out of the limelight.  Silvana is just upset because she doesn't know where Sean is, what he is doing and how he is bonding with David.  She is no longer in control, and is slowly going insane.  She knows that everyday their bond will grow stronger as her hold over Sean grows weaker.  It's the way it should be.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bill33 on December 25, 2009, 06:14:21 PM
I thought I heard somewhere that David's parents went down to Brazil to visit Sean and were refused.  Can anyone confirm or expand on this?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Jeanne M Hannah on December 26, 2009, 05:00:34 AM
Quote from: ChristineS;60049
And shame on CBS for adding to the MELODRAMA.  I had to stop watching half-way through.  It's Christmas and Sean and David are together.  Good night all.

Christine, all:

I was incensed by the media frenzy and misrepresentation of certain Brazilians about what occurred and why. I covered the difference in "journalism" here. CBS vs NBC and the New York Times on the Goldman case  (http://tinyurl.com/ybh7u62)

Shameful conduct on the part of Tostes, Lins e Silvan and Silvana Bianchi. What a horror the exchange must have been for Sean. I was certainly glad to see his glorious smile (David's too) once they were Wheels Up!  Jeanne
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Jeanne M Hannah on December 26, 2009, 05:16:30 AM
Quote from: Lexi;59920
I should mention that NBC didn't show Sean's face while he slept so they weren't intrusive or anything (just the top of his head).
 
The ABC reporter described JPLS choice to parade him thought the media as one last act of defiance. Barry Goldman called it terrible which it is of course.
 
CBS seems determined to report itself into irrelevance with its negative cast on the story.

Lexi, did you see my post CBS vs NBC and the New York Times on the Goldman case (http://tinyurl.com/ybh7u62)? I will never watch CBS news coverage again. Whatever credibility this news agency might have had has been destroyed by its biased coverage and inept handling of this case.  Jeanne Hannah
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Jeanne M Hannah on December 26, 2009, 05:26:31 AM
Quote from: JamesJosephs;59635
I wonder if this D-bag had a problem w/ al gore and WJC flying Laura Ling home from n korea at the behest of oprah inc.

I took huge exception to the negative coverage of NBC providing transportation to David and Sean . . . and also the disgraceful handoff in Rio. CBS v NBC and the New York Times on the Goldman case (http://tinyurl.com/ybh7u62). Jeanne Hannah
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Jeanne M Hannah on December 26, 2009, 05:40:11 AM
Quote from: gail;59272
I don't beleive that, I think it's just one more lie.  And I can't believe they paraded Sean through that mob only for their benefit, oh my God!  It makes me sick.

Absolutely correct. Tostes told CBS that he purposefully decided to parade Sean through the streets of Rio rather than to accept the offer of the consulate to enter through the privacy of the garage. This was in retribution for David refusing to guarantee visitation in the U.S. Tostes was quoted as saying.

Tostes also chose to make the hand-off one-half hour early. The news reports I read said that the media had expected the hand-off to be in the garage. So who would it have been who notified them to be on hand in a horde to mob Sean, Lins e Silva and Tostes during that tortuous walk through the paparazzi? Could it have been Tostes? He was quoted as stating he intended to make the delivery of Sean very public (although he refused to answer the New York Times' question about this). CBS vs NBC and the New York Times coverage (http://tinyurl.com/ybh7u62).
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: JamesJosephs on December 26, 2009, 07:48:39 AM
Quote from: Jeanne M Hannah;60616
Lexi, did you see my post CBS vs NBC and the New York Times on the Goldman case (http://tinyurl.com/ybh7u62)? I will never watch CBS news coverage again. Whatever credibility this news agency might have had has been destroyed by its biased coverage and inept handling of this case. Jeanne Hannah

 
Jeanne. That is a well written article.  Certainly, the role that Brazlian reporter Liz Bacelar played in CBS' unethical and biased coverage of the case is one worth looking into.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: liesl78 on December 26, 2009, 11:04:11 AM
O GAROTO SEAN - O AMOR NÃO SE REGOZIJA COM A INJUSTIÇA, MAS COM A VERDADE! (http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/reinaldo/geral/o-garoto-sean-o-amor-nao-se-regozija-com-a-injustica-mas-com-a-verdade/)

   sábado, 26 de dezembro de 2009 | 6:21                              

Lamentável, deplorável, detestável — escolham aí os adjetivos desse paradigma — o carnaval promovido pelo ramo brasileiro da família do garoto Sean Goldman. Lamento: não há amor que justifique isso. ATÉ PORQUE O AMOR NÃO ESTÁ ACIMA DA LEI; O AMOR ESTÁ É EM OUTRO LUGAR. E, havendo amor, então é preciso que haja também bom senso. Estamos assistindo, com ampla cobertura de uma imprensa que, na média, também perdeu a medida, a uma espécie de concupiscência do sofrimento — um sentimento um tanto perigoso —, a que se somaram rasgos, calculem, de nacionalismo e até de teorias conspiratórias.
 
A presença desse menino do Brasil, contra a vontade de seu pai, de quem ele foi tirado, era SIMPLEMENTE ILEGAL. O Brasil já se viu na posição contrária e atuou para trazer de volta as suas crianças, e é o certo. É vexaminoso, se querem saber, que esse caso tenha chegado ao Supremo, o que pode ser atestado por qualquer pessoa com um conhecimento mínimo de direito. Lamento dizer que tenho minhas dúvidas se essa história teria chegado tão longe não fosse a fidalguia de uma das famílias envolvidas  — Lins e Silva, do padrasto do menino. Um padrasto, à altura em que estavam as coisas, em situação muito especial.
 
Vestir no garoto a camisa do Brasil, mimetizando um confronto entre países, é não só ridículo; é perverso também. Os parentes do menino que assim procederam imputaram-lhe perdas adicionais, não fosse a tristeza, natural, de se afastar das pessoas com as quais conviveu nos últimos cinco anos. O que pretendem? Que se sinta  para sempre estrangeiro em seu próprio país? Que resista a uma identidade a que tem direito? O apelo ao presidente Lula — e é chocante que alguns príncipes do direito tenham permitido tal investida — parece entender que o Brasil é um país sem leis, onde vigora a vontade do soberano; a verdadeira campanha que se desencadeou contra o ministro Gilmar Mendes — que decidiu segundo a lei — pretende pôr uma sombra de irracionalidade e emocionalismo numa decisão impecável. O que queriam as famílias Bianchi e Lins e Silva? Que as leis valessem para todos, menos para os fidalgos amorosos?
 
Vi a avó materna do garoto ontem na TV. Com a devida vênia, esta senhora está fazendo dumping de sofrimento. Mais do que ela, certamente sofre o menino Sean, submetido a um bombardeio emocional inacreditável, que só falta convocar a honra da pátria e acusar, sei lá, o imperialismo americano… Na TV, ela não teve dúvida: atacou Gilmar Mendes, COM TODA AQUELA AUTORIDADE E LICENÇA QUE AS PESSOAS QUE SOFREM TÊM PARA DIZER BOBAGENS E PARA SER INJUSTAS. E a televisão levou ao ar. E levará outras vezes. Porque isso é o filé das emoções baratas. Nem vou indagar se, fosse numa situação inversa, não estaria a pátria sendo igualmente mobilizada para trazer de volta um “brasileirinho”. Ela deitou falação. E fomos informados que o ministro preferiu não comentar. COMENTAR O QUÊ?
 
Há um processo de criminalização no país de quem segue as leis. Os “sofredores” podem ir para a televisão, como verdadeiros aiatolás, e declarar uma fatwa contra a reputação de A ou de B; afinal, se eles sofrem, então estão necessariamente certos. E que se danem as leis, a Constituição, os tratados internacionais. Depois do “Direito Achado na Rua”, chegou a hora do “Direito Achado nas Lágrimas”. E ele dá, então, licença até mesmo para seqüestros amorosos.
 
Chamem Salomão! Tenho dúvidas sobre o que fariam alguns desses sofredores se o Rei mandasse cortar a criança ao meio… Se as leis não bastam aos inconformados, eu lhes recomendo o “Amor”, aquele da Primeira Epístola de São Paulo aos Coríntios:
“O amor é paciente, é benigno; o amor não é invejoso; o amor não se vangloria, não se ensoberbece, não se porta inconvenientemente, não busca os seus próprios interesses, não se irrita, não suspeita mal; não se regozija com a injustiça, mas se regozija com a verdade; tudo sofre, tudo crê, tudo espera, tudo suporta.”
 
É isto: O AMOR NÃO SE REGOZIJA COM A INJUSTIÇA, MAS COM A VERDADE!
 
Parem de expor essa criança em praça pública. Sejam mais comedidos. Sejam mais amorosos. Sejam menos soberbos e concupiscentes em seu sofrimento. E não peçam que o país revogue as leis e os tratados internacionais porque, afinal, vocês estão tristes. Não permitam que tanto afeto ajude a tornar muitos brasilerios ainda mais estúpidos. Deixem os holofotes de lado e se apeguem a São Paulo!

Reinaldo Azevedo - Veja Magazine
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Herb Wife on December 26, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
Quote from: liesl78;60703
O GAROTO SEAN - O AMOR NÃO SE REGOZIJA COM A INJUSTIÇA, MAS COM A VERDADE! (http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/reinaldo/geral/o-garoto-sean-o-amor-nao-se-regozija-com-a-injustica-mas-com-a-verdade/)
 
sábado, 26 de dezembro de 2009 | 6:21
 
Lamentável, deplorável, detestável — escolham aí os adjetivos desse paradigma — o carnaval promovido pelo ramo brasileiro da família do garoto Sean Goldman. Lamento: não há amor que justifique isso. ATÉ PORQUE O AMOR NÃO ESTÁ ACIMA DA LEI; O AMOR ESTÁ É EM OUTRO LUGAR. E, havendo amor, então é preciso que haja também bom senso. Estamos assistindo, com ampla cobertura de uma imprensa que, na média, também perdeu a medida, a uma espécie de concupiscência do sofrimento — um sentimento um tanto perigoso —, a que se somaram rasgos, calculem, de nacionalismo e até de teorias conspiratórias.

A presença desse menino do Brasil, contra a vontade de seu pai, de quem ele foi tirado, era SIMPLEMENTE ILEGAL. O Brasil já se viu na posição contrária e atuou para trazer de volta as suas crianças, e é o certo. É vexaminoso, se querem saber, que esse caso tenha chegado ao Supremo, o que pode ser atestado por qualquer pessoa com um conhecimento mínimo de direito. Lamento dizer que tenho minhas dúvidas se essa história teria chegado tão longe não fosse a fidalguia de uma das famílias envolvidas — Lins e Silva, do padrasto do menino. Um padrasto, à altura em que estavam as coisas, em situação muito especial.

Vestir no garoto a camisa do Brasil, mimetizando um confronto entre países, é não só ridículo; é perverso também. Os parentes do menino que assim procederam imputaram-lhe perdas adicionais, não fosse a tristeza, natural, de se afastar das pessoas com as quais conviveu nos últimos cinco anos. O que pretendem? Que se sinta para sempre estrangeiro em seu próprio país? Que resista a uma identidade a que tem direito? O apelo ao presidente Lula — e é chocante que alguns príncipes do direito tenham permitido tal investida — parece entender que o Brasil é um país sem leis, onde vigora a vontade do soberano; a verdadeira campanha que se desencadeou contra o ministro Gilmar Mendes — que decidiu segundo a lei — pretende pôr uma sombra de irracionalidade e emocionalismo numa decisão impecável. O que queriam as famílias Bianchi e Lins e Silva? Que as leis valessem para todos, menos para os fidalgos amorosos?

Vi a avó materna do garoto ontem na TV. Com a devida vênia, esta senhora está fazendo dumping de sofrimento. Mais do que ela, certamente sofre o menino Sean, submetido a um bombardeio emocional inacreditável, que só falta convocar a honra da pátria e acusar, sei lá, o imperialismo americano… Na TV, ela não teve dúvida: atacou Gilmar Mendes, COM TODA AQUELA AUTORIDADE E LICENÇA QUE AS PESSOAS QUE SOFREM TÊM PARA DIZER BOBAGENS E PARA SER INJUSTAS. E a televisão levou ao ar. E levará outras vezes. Porque isso é o filé das emoções baratas. Nem vou indagar se, fosse numa situação inversa, não estaria a pátria sendo igualmente mobilizada para trazer de volta um “brasileirinho”. Ela deitou falação. E fomos informados que o ministro preferiu não comentar. COMENTAR O QUÊ?

Há um processo de criminalização no país de quem segue as leis. Os “sofredores” podem ir para a televisão, como verdadeiros aiatolás, e declarar uma fatwa contra a reputação de A ou de B; afinal, se eles sofrem, então estão necessariamente certos. E que se danem as leis, a Constituição, os tratados internacionais. Depois do “Direito Achado na Rua”, chegou a hora do “Direito Achado nas Lágrimas”. E ele dá, então, licença até mesmo para seqüestros amorosos.

Chamem Salomão! Tenho dúvidas sobre o que fariam alguns desses sofredores se o Rei mandasse cortar a criança ao meio… Se as leis não bastam aos inconformados, eu lhes recomendo o “Amor”, aquele da Primeira Epístola de São Paulo aos Coríntios:
“O amor é paciente, é benigno; o amor não é invejoso; o amor não se vangloria, não se ensoberbece, não se porta inconvenientemente, não busca os seus próprios interesses, não se irrita, não suspeita mal; não se regozija com a injustiça, mas se regozija com a verdade; tudo sofre, tudo crê, tudo espera, tudo suporta.”

É isto: O AMOR NÃO SE REGOZIJA COM A INJUSTIÇA, MAS COM A VERDADE!

Parem de expor essa criança em praça pública. Sejam mais comedidos. Sejam mais amorosos. Sejam menos soberbos e concupiscentes em seu sofrimento. E não peçam que o país revogue as leis e os tratados internacionais porque, afinal, vocês estão tristes. Não permitam que tanto afeto ajude a tornar muitos brasilerios ainda mais estúpidos. Deixem os holofotes de lado e se apeguem a São Paulo!
 
Reinaldo Azevedo - Veja Magazine

 
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Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: ssutton on December 26, 2009, 12:17:19 PM
Quote from: Jeanne M Hannah;60616
Lexi, did you see my post CBS vs NBC and the New York Times on the Goldman case (http://tinyurl.com/ybh7u62)? I will never watch CBS news coverage again. Whatever credibility this news agency might have had has been destroyed by its biased coverage and inept handling of this case. Jeanne Hannah

My response comment:
 

NBC has been reporting on David & Sean for over a year with grace, correct facts, and a wonderful presentation. They have shown compassion in their stories that have touched many around the world. Yes around the World... I became a supporter of "Bring Sean Home" a year ago because of NBC, after hearing the cries of a father to bring his son home. I have watched videos and read many articles from many sources and CBS always seemed to not get it right. I have even sent them comments that what they were reporting was incorrect. NBC has gone above and beyond in researching the facts, reporting the correct information, and helping a father in need. There are many more stories just like David & Sean's that need our attention and if you would just visit "Bring Sean Home" you can get many correct facts, and also help in the fight to help many "Left Behind Parents". I believe that if CBS would have done this they could have had a different opinion, correct facts, and possibly an audience. Thanks to NBC, Meredith, Jeff, and all at NBC.
Susan Sutton
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: LukieD on December 26, 2009, 12:20:15 PM
well said, by Saint Paul in his letter to the Corinthians:
 
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
 
That summarizes perfectly David's love for Sean. Thank you Renaldo Azevedo.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bob D'Amico on December 26, 2009, 12:22:42 PM
Even though Google's Translation Service is not perfect that commentary  by Reinaldo Azevedo was OUTSTANDING!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: shaine on December 26, 2009, 12:33:22 PM
The Mediabistro article is terrible.
The comments are even worse.

Shame.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Sandra on December 26, 2009, 01:36:04 PM
Another one: Jornal Correio do Brasil (http://www.correiodobrasil.com.br/noticia.asp?c=161596) - O bom senso soterrado pela mesquinharia. (Common sense buried by greed).
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: BrazilianForJustice on December 26, 2009, 02:24:41 PM
Quote from: Sandra;60779
Another one: Jornal Correio do Brasil (http://www.correiodobrasil.com.br/noticia.asp?c=161596) - O bom senso soterrado pela mesquinharia. (Common sense buried by greed).
This article attacks Sean personally!!!
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: shaine on December 26, 2009, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;60797
This article attacks Sean personally!!!

Shame on them! He's a 9 yr old boy!
Where exactly in the artivle did they attack him though?
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Bree on December 26, 2009, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: LukieD;60740
well said, by Saint Paul in his letter to the Corinthians:
 
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
 
That summarizes perfectly David's love for Sean. Thank you Renaldo Azevedo.

1 Corinthians 13:4-7
 
It does indeed summarize David's love for Sean.  I have a throw blanket with this scripture on it.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Lexi on December 27, 2009, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: Jeanne M Hannah;60616
Lexi, did you see my post CBS vs NBC and the New York Times on the Goldman case (http://tinyurl.com/ybh7u62)? I will never watch CBS news coverage again. Whatever credibility this news agency might have had has been destroyed by its biased coverage and inept handling of this case. Jeanne Hannah

It's a good article Jeanne and "wrong-headed" about sums up CBS coverage of this case. I just don't get the impression they are tapped into public sentiment the way the other networks are even generally, which is presumably why they seem to consistently trail them in the ratings. And the possibility that their coverage has been slanted because of the family's insider connections is pretty disturbing to say the least.
 
About mediabistro's criticism of NBC, I think overall it's good to have oversight of journalistic ethics and possible conflicts, but since many other media outlets have had repeated access to David even recently, I don't think mediabistro has much of a point.
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: noah3698 on December 27, 2009, 12:33:11 PM
Did any one here read Eduardo's blog (Brasil com Z) yesterday? I read it via google translator and it is very nice. He praises bringseanhome.org and all their efforts (translating the rulings and such)...
 
http://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/brasilcomz/posts/2009/12/26/jogo-invertido-no-caso-goldman-mas-procura-se-respeito-252924.asp
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: noah3698 on December 27, 2009, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: BrazilianForJustice;60797
This article attacks Sean personally!!!

Where?  I read it and I didn't see any attack on Sean....
Title: Re: Media Coverage Thursday Dec 24
Post by: Grace on December 27, 2009, 01:35:14 PM
That was no attack on Sean people. Gilberto da Silva, a la Reinaldo Azevedo, is analizing the fact that all the people involved in this story are white and rich, whereas if it were some poor dark kid from the favelas (where there are many human dramas) nobody would give a damn. Gilberto is criticizing the high drama the family created.